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Originally Posted by impressed
My thoughts on this hand is that it is really a super standard spot that OP turned into an extremely ugly spot due to some FPS/boredom/whatever you want to call it.
Contrary to what OP seems to believe, I can't truly believe that you think you were ahead on the flop. Or perhaps far enough ahead that you would actually want to try and induce someone to make a move on you? I totally agree with some of the other posters is that you have a mediocre hand, and would want to take it down without contest. But grats, it seems like you made more than the rest of us would have...
And given that you have the ace of spades, and you're facing check/raise aggression, that actually combinatorically REMOVES a lot of the nut flush combos that bad villains may check raise with, so in my eyes you're in much worse shape here than you seem to perceive yourself to be. As to you thinking someone checkraises here with QTo... I sincerely doubt it.
If you call on the flop, I don't think you are ever ahead. You are playing for a spade and representing the flush. And that's really what happened and villain folded. So from that extent you made a play and had the nut blocker if caught. But it tilts me to think that you actually think you did good and played the hand consistently from start to finish. Contrary to what other believe, I actually like shoving on any spade more than flatting, but that's because I think we need to bluff to win, while others seem to think we're actually ahead and bluff catching.
Ehhh... I still do truly believe I was ahead of this villain on the flop. What was I behind? T9 (top two pair) is the only hand that makes sense given the rest of the way the hand was played. If he had a set he's calling my turn raise because he's got the odds, or he's at least taking a moment to think about it. I'm not exaggerating when I say he turbo-mucked as I said all-in. I really think anything stronger than top pair takes a few seconds before folding that quick. If I happen to have been behind and accidentally turned my hand into a bluff (well, semi-bluff) then only a real terrible player folds the winning hand that quickly. I think villain was poor, not terrible.
I think you should be able to agree that my logic there is good. And I'm agreeing that there's a chance I was behind (though a tiny chance, IMO). And beyond that there's no point arguing because we're just speculating really.