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05-17-2015 , 06:27 PM
This weekend I played a hand that I thought was interesting and worth a breakdown; we can focus on if I played the hand good/bad later I just want to put together a range for villain in this spot for now.

Hand #1:
Hero BTN (550) - Young mid 20's white male looks like he should be an aggressive/online player but has been at the table for 8+ hours playing a solid tag game.

Villain(1) UTG+1 (2000) - 30's white male who has been playing a pretty loose passive game - limping too many hands and calls raises too light. Haven't seen him make any big bluffs everything seems to be pretty standard so far from him. I don't think he is a good player but not a terrible one either.

Villain(2) SB (500) - 40's asian male who has been playing very tag all day

UTG limps, Villain 1 limps, 2 limpers from middle position both playing a loose passive game, Hero BTN $35, Villain 2 SB calls, utg fold, Villain 1 UTG +1 $105, Hero $230, Villain 2 fold, Villain 1 call.

Flop $310: KQ4hhh
Villain 1 check, Hero Check

Turn: 2d
Villain 1 - $250???
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05-17-2015 , 06:47 PM
Looks like AA with Ah, AhKx, or KK, all hoping you'd c-bet so he could CRAI. Our holding obv blocks a lot of this range, so waht we have matters a ton here..
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05-17-2015 , 09:11 PM
A loose/passive limped in EP and then reraised preflop? Usually this is AA, sometimes KK, and rarely he is playing back at you with some other hand. The exact ratio depends on your image and villain, but for a loose/passive 95%+ is AA/KK. When he calls your preflop reraise, you can drop the various weaker hands and pin his range at AK/QQ+ with AK/QQ discounted.

As for the flop, SPR is <1, any hand that could legitimately make the reraise preflop should have shove flop after villain checked. So villain is making the logical move on the turn with essentially any hand that calls preflop. Your hand is either a trivial call or fold, unless you have AA without a heart, in which case you need to soul read your villain but it's mostly fold.
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05-17-2015 , 09:27 PM
Yeah, usually AA.

Re: Garick and JJJJ,

Agreed, but V merely called the 4b. I don't see AA flat 4b much.

Given that V did not 5b pre, I really feel like this is a medium PP and V is just spazzing out.

As played, just GII.

TBH, with 110bb, I'm just 4b-shoving pre with what ever hands I think are worth 4b. With your 4b sizing, you're now SPR of 1.
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05-17-2015 , 10:21 PM
I had AdAc...I folded turn thoughts?
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05-17-2015 , 11:36 PM
I'm confused. Doesn't the pot have almost 500 on the flop (230+230+35)?

Also like others have said there's no chance of AA/KK given that he flatted your 4-bet of 230 with 320 behind.

I'd put him on AdKx, AdQx, or (sadly sometimes, depending on whether he'd limp/3-bet with) QQ and ship the turn. You're getting almost 3:1 there. Can't fold.

Last edited by jackbowie123; 05-17-2015 at 11:41 PM.
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05-18-2015 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Farfromfear
I had AdAc...I folded turn thoughts?
i put him on AK, KK, QQ. with the money in the pot i think u have to make a crying shove here. even against that range you have ~40% equity on turn
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05-18-2015 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jackbowie123
I'm confused. Doesn't the pot have almost 500 on the flop (230+230+35)?

Also like others have said there's no chance of AA/KK given that he flatted your 4-bet of 230 with 320 behind.

I'd put him on AdKx, AdQx, or (sadly sometimes, depending on whether he'd limp/3-bet with) QQ and ship the turn. You're getting almost 3:1 there. Can't fold.
Whoops yes about $500... Thinking back on it I think he had more combos of AK than I originally thought probably a bad fold
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05-18-2015 , 01:08 PM
Should I just jam flop?
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05-18-2015 , 02:46 PM
That probably depends on your tolerance for variance and how much the buy-in matters. Flush draw + pair is pretty much 40% equity for the villain so he's getting the right price against AA and not too terrible against your KK/QQ.

In a vacuum I guess it's a flop ship, but I wouldn't be thrilled. Tough spot.
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05-18-2015 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jackbowie123
That probably depends on your tolerance for variance and how much the buy-in matters. Flush draw + pair is pretty much 40% equity for the villain so he's getting the right price against AA and not too terrible against your KK/QQ.

In a vacuum I guess it's a flop ship, but I wouldn't be thrilled. Tough spot.
If this is a concern, then move down in stakes.
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05-18-2015 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
If this is a concern, then move down in stakes.
I agree, but it's not irrelevant depending on whether hero might be stuck, taking a shot, etc.
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