Holy **** the rake is $7 f-ing dollars!?!?

on my phone so may be off but looks like we're getting 3.5:1 so i call and check fold all non board pairing rivers.

+1 on the loose passive always having the nuts here. L/p love broadway hands. Puke fold

Edit: just re read the turn action. We have to call 190 to win 550 plus implied odds if we hit. Call and bet out 200-250 if the board pairs

Wouldn't we be narrowing his range seeing how he plays back vs our bet on the turn?

First thing I noticed. Jesus Christ.

PRE TURN EVALUATION:

Oh man - potting the turn is terrible. Betting the turn is also terrible. Check - give the other guy a chance to bluff. He's not calling much after the flop tank/call and that turn card has changed nothing. Let him think you were making a continuation on the flop with air. Even if he checks back you can bet the river and it will then look like you are making a move. There's nothing here that realistically beats you given this action. Just check/raise turn or check/check turn and bet the pot on the river. Either way you want to extract value - not lose a fish on the line.

TURN EVALUATION:

See now if you checked the turn Villain would make a stab/bet and you would call and get to the see the river for less than $350. That said - if he really is a passive player you who is incapable of making a bluff here (which is what I would do given the action and your line and my realization that you don't have the straight here), than you must fold. However, your turn bet has clearly opened the door for a good player to make an "I have a straight and I know you don't" play at this pot with a bluff.

My theory is if you can avoid giving yourself a tough decision by creating tough spots you should even at the expense of value. FYI: this is contrary to what most people here believe.

Raise to 35-40 pre or just limp in. I'd bet 100 on the turn but if he's really bad and will call turn wih top pair or draws, I'd bet 150. Tough spot. Really looks like q10 or 107. If u think he does this with any two pairs just get it in. I hate calling then check foldig river if I miss so I probably shove or fold based on ur read

This post has to be a level. Betting the turn is not only standard here but correct.

Geez-us christ this is making my head hurt.

loose passive = calling station.

The beauty in playing loose passive villains is that THEY OVERCALL!!!!

We should be betting like a mofo in spots like this vs loose passives because they will call down with complete and total garbage. Thus, when they raise you, warning bells should be going off.

checking turn in this spot vs a loose passive villain is losing you a ton of value and you are leaving all sorts of money on the table....

Hero Calls additional $190

River Qc

Hero Checks, Villian all in for $290

Hero folded, Villian shows Q, 10.

Overall I guess I didn't butcher this hand too bad. By commitee it looks like everyone favors raising more preflop, though Villian would of called. He would of not folded for the extra 10 or 15, guy was playing almost every hand

Summary: Cooler? Though I have to work on my bet sizing it could of saved me a few dollars.

Note: short time after, Villian donks off about $500 on a terrible play. It was very painful to see my chips go to a better player, knowing it would be very difficult trying to win them back.

I think mathematically it was correct to call the turn if you include hands you crush. It's a cooler when someone calls OOP with a jackpot hand I think you lost the minimum here. Good fold, get the fish next time. Guys like that always come back for more

Posters who think villain could not have JJ since he just limped have never played in my card room.