$2-5 JJ in MP, facing a lot of heat - Page 2 - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Flat pre.

Shove the flop the first time around.

As played, it's a snap call.

You put in way more than 1/2 of stacks with an overpair and backdoor draws.

You put in 85+225 = 310.

The main pot has EP(450) + LP(450) + BTN(450) + Hero(310) + UTG(85) = 1,745.

You have to call 140 into the main pot. You're getting 1,745:140.

That's 12.5 to ****ing 1.

I think you definitely have more than 7% equity.

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04-07-2015 , 05:40 PM

#27

jvds

adept

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,176

100 pre (or flat if UTG is actually really tight), jam flop, as played call. folding is insane.

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04-08-2015 , 12:55 AM

#28

ironmikee

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 226

^^^ Amazing !!!
Wish I can see the turn and river cards and opponents hole cards too when I play. Poker would be easy.

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04-08-2015 , 06:31 AM

#29

au4all

veteran

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,872

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Originally Posted by Submerged

UTG checks, EP donks $100 and action is on me. This pot is bloated and wet. I dont want to just flat and I dont want to over commit my hand. I decided to raise and made it $225 (upon reflection, I think this is way too small and with the other stack depths in play I think it is a shove).

With an SPR of about one and an over-pair why do you not want to commit to this hand? Either don't raise pre, or commit now. Either play JJ as a small pair, or a big pair.

As played call. Definitely shove the flop at your first opportunity to do so.

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04-08-2015 , 05:34 PM

#30

DeepStack bMAC

grinder

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 475

Flat PF. JJ isn't premium and it certainly isn't one you wanna play a huge pot with. There's nothing wrong with flatting and set mining against 6 v's. You make huge money when you hit. 6 handed against decent players is one thing but flat against these donks and rape them on good flops.

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04-08-2015 , 08:43 PM

#31

Submerged

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 444

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willyoman

Shove the flop the first time around.

As played, it's a snap call.

You put in 85+225 = 310.

The main pot has EP(450) + LP(450) + BTN(450) + Hero(310) + UTG(85) = 1,745.

You have to call 140 into the main pot. You're getting 1,745:140.

That's 12.5 to ****ing 1.

I think you definitely have more than 7% equity.

I didn't post this right after my session and was unsure of the stack sizes so I just tried to reconstruct them. However, it was definitely more than $300 for me to call (button was the effective stack). I had it around 15-17% needed to call (which is still a call). But another $140 or 7% is just trivial.

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04-08-2015 , 09:14 PM

#32

Willyoman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10,468

Got it. Makes sense.

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04-09-2015 , 12:01 AM

#33

DPCharly

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 153

Probably we dont have to be afraid of FDs/SDs because they will be blocking each other. How many cards are left that cause damage? But we are against a set or an overpair, thats for sure. Is it worth it 6:1 to gamble this? No idea... Somebody stove it please...

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