Hero (CO)($1400) is a mid 40's white guy getting out for his all too rare poker session. I am new to $2-5 and I play like it. I am playing much tighter than I used to at $1-3 and $1-2 and it has been commented on at the table that I am playing tight. Table has seen me raise pre and give up post multiple times after missing when the flop went multi-way. I got my stack by calling a $325 turn bet into a $1000 pot with two overs and the nut flush draw (with around $200 behind) that hit the flush so I shouldn't be seen as scared money. I did get payed the extra $200 on the hand

Villain (covers) is 50's asian guy with the gamble in him. UTG and straddles to $10. He is the reason for the season! He is playing most hands for a raise and is playing wide open! Has called off 100 bb with 78o on 865 flop and also 62s on the turn where he had a gutshot straight to the bottom end and flush draw. On both of these hands he bet/called. OTTH

Hero is dealt 108 and it is unopened and I raise to $35. The button (unimportant to the hand other than his $35 contribution to pot size) calls, blinds fold and villain defends his straddle.

Flop ($106 after drop): AK3 Checked to me and I bet $65. Button folds and villain makes it $175 pretty quickly. I pondered for a few seconds and eventually called. I am never folding and pretty much never raising here (although this point is why I am posting this up).

Turn ($456): 7 Villain bets $600 . Now I am not so sure. I now think that he is not bluffing and it comes down to "do I have the best hand". If I call I will have $600 left to play the river and if I raise I am worried about getting snapped off by the Q or J high flush. I am pretty sure that he has me on a set of aces or kings and is value betting all his flushes with the assumption that I will not fold a set. I decide to call with no plan for the river (although I did tell myself that if the river bricked and he checked I was sending it in - in practice I am not so sure).

River ($1656): A Villain checks and I ship it in confident that I may even fold out better.

Question: How bad was my turn play? Am I supposed to just get it in against described player? How often does described player have a naked Qc there (my read at the table was that he didn't have the nut flush draw)?

He probably has a set. I would get it all in if on non club and cards that dont pair the board. River play is interesting. He rarely has a fullhouse when he checks to us. So what an interesting shove. He never folds better by the way

Why not?

you said he has bet/called a shove multiple times on the turn with just a draw or a pair+draw. Seems like a good spot to ship the turn and get calls from AQ/KQ with the Queen of clubs while he is willing to put the money in.

This is why I posted the hand! I think I might have screwed it up!

His "get it ins" we're for around 100bbs, not around 300bbs. I am not sure if his thinking would change like mine does (I get 100bbs in with my hand here every time).

A lot of people like this defend their straddle pretty wide, and if he has showed down hands like 62s he could have a lot worse flushes in his range I would think. Baby flushes often play really aggressive like this, as they are scared of the 4th club coming/board pairing.

Grunch- I 3! The flop and as played ship the turn

Villians overbet on the turn makes me think we are ahead. If he has a baby flush, once he puts in $600 I don´t think he is ever folding for $600 more. If he has AxQc, AxJc, AK, I don´t think he is folding. Let´s shove here to get that fat value before a scare card comes and to keep ourselves from a RIO situation on the river. Seems like the only reason to just call would be to keep A3,A7,K3 in the hand but this guy probably isn´t folding them anyhow.

As played I like your river bet for value. Don´t think he his ever folding a better hand though.

i probably 3! the flop because he rarely puts you on clubs when you open and the A and K flop.

ship the turn
13 flush combos beat you
you are ahead of:
15 flush combos
sets
2pair
nut flush draw
even worse (he probably thinks you never have a flush here)

you should never fold the river, so get the money in, for if he just has the dry Q, he might check/fold river blank

if you're not comfortable risking 300bb, switch to 1-2 and buy back in at 2-5 when allowed, no shame in making this move if you're uncomfortable this deep and/or with the total dollars at risk; maybe you were totally calm, but for me, if I'm trying next level up I don't want to dive into 300bb play, there will always be another whale.

He's not putting you on a flush because you have a tight image and you're not raising with lower clubs often. He could have Qc with Ace. I shove

Pre is good.

Flop bet is good; I actually like flatting V's check raise. I think it disguises the strength of hero's hand.

Shove turn.

Villain has AK a good amount of the time up until the river. As played b/f $300 seems good, check seems good, shove does not. Villain's most likely holding is AxQc.

I would 3 bet this flop, we want to get stacks in before villain changes his mind. A decent player may only have a few flush combos that beat us: QJcc, J9cc and maybe Q9cc. However I guess based on his description he probably has a bunch of wonky Q and J high flushes. Overall there are still way more flushes we beat that will likely want to get it in. The last thing you want is for the board to pair or another club to come and have it kill your action. He is not folding his two pair, sets, flushes and maybe even top pair nut flush draw type hands.

Way to much value missed by not 3-betting flop

Flat flop is good now jam turn for value vs Kcx Qcx and smaller flushes.

Reading the op v description I'd be playing 3rd nuts as if it's the nuts.

As played I'm a bit confused by river. I mean I'm sticking it in too but I don't get the confidently acting thing. Are you bluffing now? Or are you acting like yor bluffing to get looked up???? What hands we beat call river that would not call turn jam?

Generally if a guy makes a significant aggressive action I assume he's not folding and I will 3! Otf. Vs this type of villain tho I will give him a chance to commit further ott when we have position. Yes we risk a bad card falling that kills our hand or action. I think flatting here and raising turn is fine.

Edit: I missed stack sizes initially. I think I agree a flop raise is usually best now. In this case the flat worked out but yeah a lot of times we won't be able to get stacks in if we don't start building otf.

check the pot odds, you aren't folding at those odds.

Probably raising flop vs said V - certainly shipping turn - as played is close, but I probably check back bc his line is very odd. If I put it in on the river... its not a bluff lol??? Nor would I ever expect it to work as one.

I remain unconvinced

Seems like a very standard check back otr. Not sure what questions there are here.

Also, definitely waiting for V to show.

pot is $1656 and we have $590 left. a bet of $300 would offer V $300 to win $1956. a bet of $590 would offer V $590 to win $2246. For $300 to be the better choice, V has to call more than twice as often with the losing hand AND we have to respond 100% correctly to a raise. while such a V may theoretically exist, we know from experience that the calling percentage between these two choices would be very close to identical nearly always, therefore jam is better than $300. thus, the choice is jam or check, hard to say which one is better (Hero should've jammed the turn and we wouldn't have this choice)

Villain is Asian and has gamble. His range is a lot of QcJx QcTx or even QcX hands and 33 if you must
I think it's a mistake not I get it in on the turn when he has equity
You have the third nuts here and yes he can show up with a Better flush a few times but he is playing lower flushes too and together with the drawing range assigned above you are way ahead and should be gii on the turn imo

Also based on info given I'd be shocked if villain shows up with AK or AxQc given he just flatted pre

I think an alternative, interesting situation would be:

River brings a low club like the 6c and Villains shoves into us. Is this a call or fold?