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2/5 attempt to LAG it up OOP, are we going with this bluff? 2/5 attempt to LAG it up OOP, are we going with this bluff?
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06-11-2019 , 12:44 PM
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Usually hands that make good XR bluffs OTF - make bad turn bluffs.

Monker folds preflop every time and twice on Sundays.
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06-11-2019 , 03:27 PM
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Check turn.
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06-11-2019 , 03:43 PM
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Check turn.
Checking sets too? What about the nuts we just turned a lot?

I mean this card is perfect. OESD got there, Gutter+BDFD added equity, sets are sets. PUNISSHHHHHHHH UTG, checking is impossible. Pile. I don't care that he raised when he can't raise either. Imagine playing against our line from UTG - You have to fold the majority of your range or hero off your stack. Hero cannot check.

Please tell me otherwise bc I just don't see it unless we were airballing flop which we just shouldn't be doing.
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06-11-2019 , 03:52 PM
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Well, apparently we're 600 deep, so shoving over his turnbet would have no FE.

I'd prefer calling the flop and check/raising the turn, preferably if his 2nd barrel is not too big and if I'm certain he can bet/fold overpairs.
Turn too small, flop too small, and I don't want any FE anyway. If he wants to call with 99+ the times I have 53s then good for him, he's gonna win 70% of the time, cool. Since I'm ckr pile shoving 99, 66, 44 close to always and 87s, 75s, 64s, 53s often, he's dead.
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06-11-2019 , 05:08 PM
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Turn too small, flop too small, and I don't want any FE anyway. If he wants to call with 99+ the times I have 53s then good for him, he's gonna win 70% of the time, cool. Since I'm ckr pile shoving 99, 66, 44 close to always and 87s, 75s, 64s, 53s often, he's dead.
Why would you X/R sets on this flop vs. an unknown (i.e. not trying to balance)? Probably forcing him to let go of a bunch big ace combos. That said, I can see 44 raising ~ 1/2 the time.
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06-12-2019 , 12:59 AM
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Why would you X/R sets on this flop vs. an unknown (i.e. not trying to balance)? Probably forcing him to let go of a bunch big ace combos. That said, I can see 44 raising ~ 1/2 the time.
No problem having lots of ckc, but It just depends on how you play your own ranges and against whom.
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06-12-2019 , 04:51 AM
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Why would you X/R sets on this flop vs. an unknown (i.e. not trying to balance)? Probably forcing him to let go of a bunch big ace combos. That said, I can see 44 raising ~ 1/2 the time.
People don't really dbl barrel enough bluffs and our line looks extremely fishy for a set, much easier to get value that way rather than x/r turn or river which is always the stone nuts
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06-12-2019 , 05:41 PM
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I feel like you are not deep enough to attempt this play from the get-go with this kind of hand.

If you started with 200BB+, then you would have the option to bet for FE at some point in the hand, which is often required for a hand with no SDV.

Edit: I'm not saying fold pre, but ultimately not a fan of the x/r on the flop which bloats the pot and leaves us too little behind.
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