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Originally Posted by Koss
If you 4 bet the minimum are you calling a shove? I think you would pretty much have to. But given how far ahead of V1's range we are and the fact that i expect a 4 bet to accomplish its objective 90% of the time I think I go for it.
I would be paranoid that V3 or 4 behind me might pick up on the weakness if we flat and think they have an edge with a jam. 4 bet to 275 and sigh call a shove.
If V3 shoves, we'd be getting a little better than 2-1 so would need about 26-32% equity to call, but the side pot situation against the shortstack complicates things.
Since we could very easily have KK+, I'd think villain's range would be pretty strong if he shoves so I think we could get away from it.
If V4 shoves, I think I'd call since his shoving range should be a little wider due to 2 facts: first, he's less likely to have flatted KK+ against a raise and a flat. Second, he's only got to get through 1 player (hero).
But I agree, a 4-bet should get both players to fold the great majority of the time.