2/5NL local casino Sat night I been at the table for 2hrs

Villain- $750 utg+2 30's Hindu loose passive preflop and tighter postflop. Hasn't gotten out of hand so far

Hero- Covers SB- I been running over the table. I raised every pot I been in, have been caught bluffing a couple of times which led to me getting paid off on my big hands. Have great image been getting called down with bottom pair,etc.

Recent hand history with villain I raised in CO w KJo to 25 I get called 3 callers. Flop comes KQ8

They check to me i cbet 50 V calls from bb. Turn 2c V checks I check. River 5c he checks I bet 100. He calls with Qx. I scoop pot.

Hand in question

3 limpers I am in SB I make it 30 two callers including V in UTG+2. Pot 90.

Flop A102

I cbet 50, V calls other caller folds. Pot 190.

Turn 3

I check, he checks.

Once he checks no way he has a set, two pairs, AK-AJ. I put him on a flush draw, weak Ax, 10x.

River K

I bet 100. He raises to 375 after 10 seconds. I got the A

Bluffing missed flush draw? two pairs K10, AK? Hit his gut shot draw I dont see him calling flop with gut shot. Weird played way of a set?

Call or fold?

My plan was to get 2 streets of value from him.

Critique every street of play and river play.

BTW I got AsKx, not mentioned above just in title.

Given history and that board you have to bet the turn. That check behind was awful. River is a snap fold. Lp's dont bluff check shove rivers after a flush hits. I dont think he is doing this with 2 pair.

bet turn.

I would bet the flop more. Value. We raise AK because people call pre with worse aces, people are kind of either calling this flop or not, so with the draw out there as well I'd make it 65/70.

Having bet small on the flop I'm definitely betting turn. We can pot-control if we made a big bet OTF, but against a cally villain, with TPTK we're happy to juice the pot a bit.

I cannot see him checking back a better hand on the turn. A draw is the only thing that this hand looks like - one got there, one didn't. I think this is quite close, because people just don't bluff missed draws that much, but I am tempted to call because missed diamonds is the only hand that makes sense all the way through, and we actually beat all his 2 pairs, which despite his check back on the turn, are still in his range.

I'd probably post this on 2p2 to get advice.

Snap call fist pump

I don't mind the check ott but as others have said you r missing some value but given the river raise its not too bad. As for ur hand the only hands that beat u that u should b worried about is 22 and 1010 but this guy is way more likely to show up with alot more hands that u beat likAx 2pair alot of missed flush draws. Fist pump call

Yeah you guys are right I felt I missed some value by not betting OTT. I was going to bet $120-140.But felt that if I put 2/3 bet V would fold all Ax, 10, and draws and had a better chance of getting paid OTR.

In which other forum of 2 plus 2?

yeah this

This one. I´m saying I can´t really decide the river, and would rather hear better posters´ (than me) opinions on the river decision.

Bet turn ainec. His river overraise looks FOS + with the As in your hand it's a call.

Bet the turn in both hands. Live players are calling stations just bet bet bet. Why are you so scared of betting turn cards without the nuts?

Your plan should have been to get 3 streets of value.

As played fold. Since he checked behind on this wet board, it's highly unlikely that V has 2 pair + since he would mostly likely raise to protect his hand. V probably has a straight (called with QJ and hit his gutter) or called with QJ, Tx OTF and backdoored a flush. Rarely will you see a river bluff at this level.

Not scared I usually do bet all 3 streets but I was trying to mix up my game. And was trying to get paid off from Ax, 10x, etc. I dont think this type of player would call a bet on every street. I think if I use this line b/c/b i get paid off but not on b/b.

Didn't he just call two streets with 2nd pair?

and this

yes but that hand he checked back turn, i like his line a ton in that first hand actually. If he barrels flop and turn there's a very good chance that he folds 2nd pair on the turn, but by checking back on turn he was able to get 2 streets of value where he probably would not have if he barreled the turn. Its really amazing how often people never believe you if you simply decided to pot control one street. Ill often check back overpairs in certain dynamics and its really absurd how that simple check behind gains me extra money by inducing people to barrel on later streets because they put me on "big cards" or get paid off on the river because they put me on ax type of hands. Live players can be pretty lol in their logic and thought processes.

Anyway, in the 2nd hand I see what you're saying about going for 2 streets of value. However, I think we need to barrel the turn again because we are out of position, the board is more draw heavy, and we don't know that the guy is capable of folding top pair, even to two barrels, and there are a decent amount of Ax hands in his range. Seems most likely the guy probably rivered a gutter or has 10x of spades but I guess its kind of close because its plausible he rivered a worse 2 pair and thought it was good, i don't see this being straight up air very often. In game I probably call but its probably a puke fold in reality.

When a loose passive raises I muck this pretty quick. I'd peg him on Txss a high % or straight at worst.

You definitely made a mistake by not betting the turn, but at this point I think this is a clear fold.

1) If your trying to get paid off by Ax or 10x then you have to BET to get paid. Your logic is flawed. Your saying one thing yet doing the other. You got him on this weakish range so bet an amout you think he will call. Checking only allows weakish hands to catch up and valueown yourself on the river

2) This is clearly a b/b/b line. You play perfectly vs him this way. Clearly if hero bets turn and bets river vs a passive player and gets raised we can easily fold. Taking your line, your range looks weaker. I'd expect even a bad player to get cute some % of the time and bluff.

Yuck. Yeah missed V's desc. Against this guy it's prob a fold. Bet turn next time.