2/5 borgata

Villain ($500) Early 20's white guy. Just sat down maybe 2 orbits ago. A friend of mine who is a 2/5 reg told me he's a good, solid player. He seems very competent.

Hero ($800) Should have a pretty good image. I've been taking down a ton of pots with cbets, but I haven't shown any bluff and haven't got out of line at all. Villain hasn't seem me much as he arrived about a half hour ago.

Button ($2500) Super maniac overweight guy from my other post. He doesn't mess around much in pots that are multiway, or that look like they smash my range, which this one does.

UTG limps
Hero (UTG+1) AK raises $20
Villain (MP) calls $20
Button calls $20
UTG calls $20

Pot~80
Flop: K32
UTG checks, hero bets $50, villain calls $50, button folds, utg folds.

Pot~180
Turn: K323
Hero?

Unless he has 22 or the 1 combo of 33, I have like the nuts here. He seems like a good player so I don't think he's calling a big bet here with a FD. I don't think he's calling an UTG raise with like KJ here, so I think there's some combos of like KQs or he's got a FD or something like JJ.

What do you think of a check/raise or a check/call, check/call river?

I think if he somehow has a king he bets at least once, and he might bet a FD if I check. I don't think I get any more than 1 bet unless he bluffs the river with a busted draw.

Normally I just bet the turn and shove blank rivers, but vs a good, competent player I'm wondering if there are alternative lines I can take.

Grunch.

Bet and take it down here. 36BB pot is good for one pair hand, no need to go crazy. About the size of the bet - no need to bet big $100 will be enough to price out draws.

This is b/f b/f b/f imo. Unless you think he can bluff raise river? If so then I just c/c c/c.
Betting 100 ott
then like 150 to get a King to call

Ch/call turn and b/f river
Board pairing on turn is good for you against a good thinking player as you can also check with KK here to trap. Therefore he shouldn't really go crazy to blow you off your hand

Grunch

Fire off another cbet of $100. Don't give up control of the hand, especially with no dynamic.

He could easily be floating PP or a draw here as well as a king, fire the missile, soldier.

I think betting this turn is best, maybe 100. This gets value from the FDs, OESD, and wheel draws he may have floated with. U will have trouble getting more than one more street of value from pps and Kx in his range so why not try to take it on the turn simultaneously with the draws in his range.

If u bet ott and he raises, I would give serious consideration to folding. A solid player would put u on about what u have so his raise should be respected even though there aren't a lot of combos of strong hands ott.

i'd lead $120-150

I like this a lot. I am not entirely sure I am going with the hand if raised on the turn here, and c.calling will make him bet all of his FD in his range, and a blank river is getting looked up after a turn check with many ppairs. Its tough to get 3 streets of value vs this type

So you suggest check calling and then shoving river ???

Pot the turn, shove any river. You will have about .25 psb left after potting turn

Not necessarily...Or, at least, I wouldn't be happy to stack off...For starters, we have TPTK against two villains. Our SPR is 6 on flop..hardly a number that is comforting to stack off.

We are playing against virtual unknowns. There is no read to indicate they call/chase draws. All we know is he is solid and competent. I agree that a FD makes up a decent portion of villain's range, but he could easily have a boat here. He could also easily have KX (which may likely fold to a turn bet). Checking turn allows you to see how villain reacts and keeps the pot from getting unnecessarily bloated (again we have TPTK).
If turn checks through (which I think it likely will), it is an easy b/f $125 on any river card
If villain bets turn (depending on sizing) we have to evaluate whether it's a good spot to commit or not.

That's just my style. I tend to appear "passive" in these spots, especially early on in the session, with no reads/history. Maybe it's a leak...I need to be convinced why stacking off with TPTK on turn is most +EV

*grunch*

I feel like this is FPS. You only know by word of mouth that this player is decent. You haven't seen anything to say otherwise.

You're betting for value here against his flush draws and Kx and feeling comfortable with getting it in if he raises.

Why are you so concerned with getting blown off the hand ott. He has only 4 combos that are ahead of us here (and many good players muck 22-55), and many many more flush draws. I think b/f is bad to terrible.

You have to bet here. Especially vs a good player. Checking just gives a free card to draws.

i've found that "solid" just means the guy is somewhat tight-ish and not very loose-passive. he probably doesn't overvalue his hands and is capable of making medium/big folds.

it does not mean that he is "good". as in capable of big bluff-raises on later streets, not scared to follow through, float, double, turn made hands into bluffs, etc.... imo, no live player is capable of this until proven otherwise (at 5/10 and lower).

you just miss too much value by not betting. if you have a plan that you ONLY want to get 2 streets out of this and that you're HAPPY with that, then you got a wrong mentality.

(Grunch)
Preflop and flop are fine of course. I would actually still put KJ in his range until you've played with him enough to know otherwise. IME most 2/5 play that in position to a raise, also even KTs.

I don't see any value in c/rai turn. I also think most people fear the flush draw too much, for all he knows you could have a flush draw yourself. I would still bet turn here tho,~1/2 pot. But a check on turn isn't horrible, just understand that there is no check fold here and your check may induce him to bet worse so you have to ride out any reasonable river betting. If turn goes c/c you have to bet river for value, ~60% pot.

i think we are too deep to check turn, if villain started hand with like 250-300 then check away.

B/f turn is pretty bad IMO. You aren't losing to very much and it doesn't make very much sense for him to be raising the things that he's likely to have that do beat you.

I'm pretty sure I bet/call the turn and c/c the river. Jamming the river is probably okay too, but I like c/c better he's probably folding some of the stuff you beat if you bet bet.

Don't assume anyone is good unless proven otherwise. If a bunch of live low stakes players thinks someone is good chances are he sucks and vice versa. Turn is perfect spot to c/r against not good players. You aren't gonna get 3 streets with mid pps so by going for c/r you can bet river if he checks back, and if he decides to bet his king/FD you get it all.

I don't understand this. Eff are $500. with a eff 250-300 it would be an easy commit, as flop SPR would be <4. I wouldn't agree with checking when eff stacks are less than 100bb

Not sure why you think I'm worried about being blown off the hand. I suggested ch/call turn and b/f river. I would also ch/call turn and lead river with my nutted hands too. Once hero calls a turn bet, villain has to realize he has little FE to bluff/raise a river lead. Read from OP is villain is "good" "solid" "competent"...
I know many have dismissed this read "until proven otherwise". While I agree most reads should be taken in relation to the perspective of the OP's (in this case his friend) read , we have to go by the reads given, otherwise we are all analyzing this hand in a vacuum.

I like how this has been played so far.

Bet/call $100 on turn.

I would check river to induce. If villain is good, he will realize KQ is a bluff catcher if we fire on river, so I doubt he will call. Thus, he bets (missed flush draws and middle pairs) more than he calls. I'm with the majority here thinking we have the best hand almost every time.

I still don't understand why we're b/f river ever unless a scare card comes in.

Because its live poker and until I see otherwise I assume people aren't capable of bluff-raising the river.

If I had some reason to actually believe he was good and I for whatever reason decided to check the turn I would certainly bet/call the river because AK is about the best hand I would ever have here.