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11-04-2016 , 10:08 PM

NorCal_n00b

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Preflop: UTG straddle, UTG+1 calls, folds to hero otb with AhAs, hero raises to $40, blinds fold, straddle calls, UTG+1 calls.

UTG is new to table, UTG+1 has called down and mucked several times, seems loose/passive.

Hero has been 3bet by the BB once after a button open (gave up preflop) and has taken down a few pots without showdown. Should appear tagish?

Effective stacks are about $500 preflop.

Pot is about $120, flop: 6h 5c 4s

OTF action: check, check, hero bets $80, fold, UTG+1 raises all in, hero???

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11-04-2016 , 10:28 PM

DK Barrel

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Calls. Pot is $660 and it's $380 to you. You need 36.5% equity and pretty much any range wider than only 2p+ gets you there.

TT-33,76s,65s,54s,76o,65o,54o - 50%

If you remove all bare overpairs

77-33,76s,65s,54s,76o,65o,54o - 39%

I find overshoves on "safe" boards are nut hands less often. The fact that the board is rainbow really makes me favor calling. Many villains will want to raise a straight with a potential flush draw to protect it.

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11-04-2016 , 11:40 PM

MIB211

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Originally Posted by DK Barrel

I generally agree with this but think you have to put 87 in his range as well. Would also give him 75s.

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11-05-2016 , 02:51 AM

NorCal_n00b

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Further information: post shove, I was tanking and talked to him a little bit. He seemed calm and said I should fold.

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11-05-2016 , 03:17 AM

Buster65

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If he is really loose passive, then this is a fold. Especially if you have only seen him call down, and never raise.

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11-05-2016 , 03:50 AM

NorCal_n00b

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Originally Posted by Buster65

If he is really loose passive, then this is a fold. Especially if you have only seen him call down, and never raise.

At this point, I had never seen him put in a raise, only call, probably played 30-40% of his hands preflop.

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11-05-2016 , 07:11 AM

MikeStarr

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Originally Posted by NorCal_n00b

At this point, I had never seen him put in a raise, only call, probably played 30-40% of his hands preflop.

Based on this statement, this is an easy fold. Hes playing a hell of a lot of hands so you have a good sample of how he plays. He has never raised?

I give him a set almost always. Even if you throw in 77 and 33 and some 2 pair hands, you dont have enough equity to call.

AA is a lot stronger hand when you are pounding a guy like this with value bets, not when he shoves on you and you have to guess what his range is.

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11-05-2016 , 08:07 AM

6bet me

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If he's loose-passive then I'm folding here. Fish don't raise draws like 76 on a 654 board. He has a set, straight or 2pr most of the time here.

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11-05-2016 , 10:04 AM

DK Barrel

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Originally Posted by MIB211

I generally agree with this but think you have to put 87 in his range as well. Would also give him 75s.

Oops. I meant to give all straight combos

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11-05-2016 , 11:19 AM

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Keaton

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This is an easy fold.

Villain is a "loose, passive" player and suddenly gets extra aggressive on an awful flop for us. Villain has a pair with OESD, 2 pair, set, or straight. We are 55% against a pair with OESD and a huge dog vs the rest.

We are just about never good here.

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11-05-2016 , 07:03 PM

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NorCal_n00b

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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I did fold after tanking about a minute or two, so no results to post.

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11-05-2016 , 09:12 PM

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BackDoorFlush

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Meh, call.

I'm only folding this hand to well known nits/OMCs/nut peddlers. Since we don't have a solid read on V, I'm calling.

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11-05-2016 , 10:37 PM

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Minatorr

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Call

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