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05-06-2014 , 08:48 AM

scelsi

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V is loose passive pre and fit or fold and a bit passive post. Hero has solid image and covers.

ES 1400

V limps EP, MP limps to Hero, overlimps A8cc in CO. Folds to BB, checks.

Flop (20) Ad Jh 8d
V c/c, Hero leads 20.

Turn (60) 9c
V donks 30. Hero thinks, raises 90. V calls.

River (240) 7s
V leads for 180. Hero folds.

Thoughts appreciated. I'm raising the turn to get value from hands like KTdd that pick up additional outs OTT. I don't see V turning 2p into a bluff. It looks like a value line from Tx that is afraid of river going ch/ch.

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05-06-2014 , 08:59 AM

daniel9861

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Looks like a pretty standard hand. Fold river if you like money.

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05-06-2014 , 09:06 AM

timmay28

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raise pre? standard otherwise

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05-06-2014 , 10:16 AM

beauvanlaanen

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fold, this is never a bluff.

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05-06-2014 , 12:58 PM

scelsi

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Getting 2.3:1 we only need to be good about 30%, correct? Do you think V can bet out with missed pair+FD (K9dd) or turn AxQd into a bluff?

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05-06-2014 , 12:59 PM

beauvanlaanen

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Originally Posted by scelsi

Getting 2.3:1 we only need to be good about 30%, correct? Do you think V can bet out with missed FD or AxQd?

V has 88 a lot

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05-06-2014 , 01:11 PM

Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by scelsi

Getting 2.3:1 we only need to be good about 30%, correct? Do you think V can bet out with missed pair+FD (K9dd) or turn AxQd into a bluff?

well we are not playing in a vacuum, we actually have more information to consider the fold:

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Originally Posted by scelsi

V is loose passive pre and fit or fold and a bit passive post.

you raised the turn on a wet board and he called, then he led out a value sized bet on the river that he thinks you will call...

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05-06-2014 , 01:15 PM

beauvanlaanen

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

well we are not playing in a vacuum, we actually have more information to consider the fold:

you raised the turn on a wet board and he called, then he led out a value sized bet on the river that he thinks you will call...

Pretty much sums it up

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05-06-2014 , 01:28 PM

Willyoman

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Raise pre, but calling isn't horrible or anything.

I think the rest looks fine. I like raising the turn for value. He can bet/call with the hands you noted, as well as plenty of worse pair / two pair + draw type hands (JT, T9, 98).

Easy and good fold on the river. Oh yeah, a loose/passive betting 180 into 240 is a straight here 99% of the time.

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05-06-2014 , 01:38 PM

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problemeliminator

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Raise pre, you're ahead of limpers range and you have a sooted ace, what more do you want?
As played fold river.

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05-06-2014 , 02:00 PM

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Cheers4Booze

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Good fold. Particularly given V description. Only thought would be to raise more OTT. This may increase the chance of V checking river and allowing us to get to SD.

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