Villain: Asian female who I've played once before who I believe is a 5/10 grinder. Looks like a "kpop" kinda girl - color contacts, blonde dyed hair. Plays pretty standard TAG poker but will sometimes makes moves if she senses weakness. The previous session she triple barrelled a missed draw and sized in river very small (like 25-30% pot) and called her with second pair. She probably sees me as a solid TAG.

On to the hand:

6 or 7 handed, villain raises 20 UTG, Hero picks up a5dd and 3bets 60 on the button, she calls. Heads up to the flop: 952ss. Hero??

I don't like the 3bet. Her range is at it's tightest. Our 3 betting range here should be super polarized. Call works much better.

Did it check to us OTF? I'm definitely leading no more than 1/2 pot b/c I'd likely size that small with all my value hands.

Just bet $60. Your hand is basically the same as AKo here. You lose to all her mid PP hands but beat all her unimproved big cards. Bet and if she calls you can check back the turn. Checking back is an option, but if she gets aggressive OTT, you need to decide if you're going to hero call down against a range that includes a lot of TT-QQ. Or you can just decide since for all intents and purposes you "missed" this flop, you can just give it up if she gets aggressive.

I ended up checking the turn for pot control. I was somewhat indecisive between checking/betting, but thinking about it now, betting makes little since the hands I'd like to deny equity from have very little equity against my hand: AQ/AK, maybe AJss, all of which have 12% equity against my hand.

Onto the hand: 10c5s2s (original post was a typo), turn is a Ac, bringing a backdoor flush draw and giving me two pair. She checks again and obviously we have to bet here. Question is - how much? i think when she checks here, she often has 99,jj,qq and possibly 88. Our hand is pretty face-up when we check the flop and bet this turn card.

If I 3b pre, I’m never checking this flop. You have 1900 behind, the pot is 100. I don’t think we should be worrying about pot control until at least a flop bet goes in there. As played I’m just betting the turn for 75

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I end up betting 65 and she calls.

On to the river - 4c comes, bringing a backdoor flushdraw and a one liner which is pretty irrelevant since villain and I should really never have a 3 here. I think we have to bet here because our hand is underrepped here. On the other hand, what do we get called by? AK,AQ? Would these hands check the turn? Hero??

10c5s2sAc4c.

Bet 160 on the river and hopefully she hero calls you with JJ.

That's the problem with this bet I think - she's never paying me off light. I played a session with her before and she hadn't seen me 3bet light before, so I think she puts me on a standard tight 3-betting range. Anyway, my hand is better than the top of my perceived range (AK) so I bet 175 into a 230 pot and she check-raises to 750 and I puke. Obviously she's repping a super narrow range, considering the massive sizing. My thoughts were that her value range consists of exactly 3 combos - QJ, KJ, KQ, and I would discount them to 2 or 1.5 combos because a lot of players at this level will just fold those hands preflop.

Also, wouldn't she lead if she had a value hand? I think most players at this level would just check-back river to take a showdown with AQ/AK, so most villains will donk the river on this run-out so that they don't miss value.

On the other hand, what bluffs can she have in this spot that calls the turn when the ace hits? AxK thats trying to fold me off a chop or AxQ turned into a bluff are the only hands that make sense to me.

Well, she knows that it's unlikely that you have a flush, what with the Ac being on the board. She can also pretty much take out AA and discount TT. So if she is considering all that, she doesn't have to worry about you calling with them, and also shouldn't be value targeting them this big. It looks like you have AK or AQ and the book says fold those. Also, she's probably fearless as some guy is bankrolling her.

At the same time, usually, when you think some person from higher stakes is making a crazy TV play, you're just fooling yourself. It's true that people get FPS playing lower, but not so often we convince ourselves. And just because they play bigger doesn't mean they are soul reading us on every hand or constantly making huge plays. You've also demonstrated some stickiness.

Also have to ask what she's calling the turn with and why. You probably aren't checking that flop with your 3b bluffs. Looks for all the world like you have an A. Sure, she could have something like spades or another A. But I think hands like JJ and QQ should give up a lot on the turn. Even at 5/10 I don't think tons of people are turning AK or AQ into a bluff here.

I'd probably fold but I don't think a call is very bad against this V.

I also don't think your flop check is bad. Seems to me she isn't folding better. The worse hands that call are only calling 1-2 streets and don't have many outs and you want her to hit an ace if she has one.

Wow, seriously? You know all about her apparently.

I consider this a pretty mandatory flopbet btw.

I was half joking. As a clown, you should realize that.

But only half. If she was an older lesbian, I'd be more apt to consider her a legit pro. Settle down, I don't mean that as an insult. Just happens that I've met several lesbians who were legit grinders and also there's the famous one.

This sounds like an attractive young girl who is really into her appearance. Possibly she spends tons of free time studying poker and quickly worked her way up to 5/10 where she crushes it. This would be an unusual way for a pretty young girl to spend her time, but it could happen. Possibly, she likes poker and some guy stakes her. Possibly it's somewhere in between. Like, she is with a rich guy and this is a hobby she takes seriously, but her path to playing 5/10 a lot is a lot easier than most.

I've seen examples of both attractive girls who were winning players and attractive girls who were "pros" that lost money in the games. We also see this among the "famous" poker players. In both cases, it's weighted to one side.

FWIW, I've also worked on the dark side of the casino and it's not very unusual for Asian women in particular, to have men they treat as ATMs funding their degeneracy.

Against female players in general, it's a good idea to look for things like expensive looking clothes, huge rocks and expensive looking hair and nails.

If V was a pudgy 40 year old man, it would be much less likely that someone was funding his play, or that he was married to somebody who happily paid all the bills and while he broke even, etc.

I said it in a joking way, but that is the reality underlying the joke. No, I don't "know all about her," but I will stereotype the crap out of her, just like I would an OMC 5xing the pot, even though I don't "know all about" him either.

Your sexism is very off putting. Women can be attractive and talented. Also there is no indication she is or isn't a lesbian.

This **** is part of why I hate the casino so much. It's filled with peopple like you.

Good grief. I explicitly said she could be talented. However, it is also possible that she has a partner who has no problem funding her. This is much less likely for anyone who is not a pretty young girl.

I did not say it was impossible for her to be a lesbian. However, only a small percentage of the population is gay. It's hardly a 50/50 proposition that a "k-pop" girl is gay. If she is, maybe a rich older woman is backing her. Pretty racist of you to assume lesbians can't be rich and have trophy wives.

Virtually every post of this nature here will mention things like the race, age, gender, dress, etc. of the V. Look at the freaking title of the thread. This is because it is useful info.

If you want to assume a woman in designer clothes with a giant rock will play the same as an old white guy with a newspaper who will play the same as a young Asian guy in a hoodie, just so you can feel self-righteous, that's great.

Re the hand, I'm folding here. It might be a great bluff, but it's a PSB back and there's nothing in history that gives us a particular clue she's likely to do that with a bluff. I agree a call isn't terrible, given a presumed level of competence sufficient to find a big x/r bluff in this spot.

Re the sexism, That comment reads pretty sexist to me. Not even the thin cover of "I think" or "may be being".

I think that's a pretty silly thing to type. If you didn't mean it, perhaps a retraction and correction rather than justification?

River is too thin when you don't have (m)any flushes in your range and no 3's. Betting the flop would have helped define her range more, she can still basically have anything when she c/c a turn bet. As played feels like a call even though you can only beat a bluff...your hand looks like AJ-AK which can't call a river c/r and she could easily be holding Kc or Qc. If you are betting river I think you need to go smaller, like $70-80. You can still call a raise to $200-400 and not feel too bad about it. It's hard to get called by worse OTR with your sizing unless she has exactly AK/AQ. Whenever I see these spots come up in 3b pots I always think to myself "well if the other player just c/r the 3bettor, they can't call" and that seems to apply here. Yeah she just has it sometimes, but it's hard to make flushes and what hands is she raising UTG with a 3 in it?