Insane game effective stack is 600 and guy who goes all in has the effective stack I cover all


2/5/10 one limp I make it 40 with AhAs

Bb call limper calls

(120) Flop Qh9s3d

I bet 50
Call call

(270) turn Ac

I bet 150 fold call

(570) river 8d

He leads 320 uknown player

Thoughts?

Effective stacks?

The only flop draw just hit. Call.

Updated.
Effective is 600

He has like 40$ behind? I’d just go allin , he should be calling almost everything and if he has JT we lose 40$ more wtver

No he jammed river and it’s 320 for me to call

Can size up pre after a limper in a game described as insane.

Sizing on flop and turn are good as they set up reasonable jam OTR.

AP, we only lose to one hand. It happens to be the most likely draw that got there but at the top of our range I can’t fold here.

Is a fold terrible against an uknown?

Literally don’t know what else he could hve

It would prob be a good fold lol. In game I prob shrug call.

Easy call. JT got there but you beat everything else and you're getting ~3:1 on your call. Can he have 89? how bout a weirdly played A8/A9? How bout weird airball bs? I've seen enough crazy stuff happen where I'm not tossing AA. Also from an MDF perspective, outside of TJ, this is the absolute top of your range, no way this can be a correct fold. Unless this is a super duper OMC that only bets with the nuts you call

lol @ solving these hands from whatever little information.

Just calculate EV by range - it’s pretty much the only worthwhile exercise.

I’s folding egregious?

We think V thinks we are a decent player.

We think he can have all 16 combos of j10

I think you can go a bit heavier on the flop and turn bets. Sure there's not a lot there for people to call with but "insane game"

AP river I call.
Honestly I don't think I fold with almost any read ...
but What's up with your lack of a read? To you he's an Unknown player...but somehow you know he thinks you're a decent player?

Just the table dynamics. He seems competent/observant

Just curious - other than few labels, what exactly do you guys actually observe at the table?

Basically how comfortable people are

Are they winning/losing ( for obv reasons/ hard to bluff people who are losing a lot easier to bluff people who are winning a lot)

Are people grinding? Are they there to blow off steam? Is the game social?

I like studying breathing patterns in high leverage spots, but my reads are still crappy

So we make the fold……

He shows us 109cc

Kinda interesting how he played it.

Assume V is good enough to know 9x isn’t winning at showdown a ton/ I should be betting the turn a ton with or without an A.

Yes the Ax is significantly better for you, when he calls flop he folds out a lot of Ax but all your Ax bluffs are still in.

Also he shouldn’t have as many big Ax due to preflop.

I think the leak here is your thought process. You folded b/c you put him on a hand and didn't really think about how often you needed to be right to make this a profitable call. As I said in my previous post, the key piece of information here is that you're getting 3:1 which means you only need to be right 25% of the time which is not very often at all. Don't try to play poker to be "correct" play it to be profitable. Sometimes that means losing 2 out of 3 times and still making the right decision.

In general my quick rule of thumb at the table is that if I only need to be right a small percentage of the time <33%ish then I call if I can think of at least 1 or 2 bluffs off the top of my head or if I think there's any chance of beating a value hand. When the pot gets big relative to the size of the bet you should be looking for reasons to call not fold

Good advice. Was having some adult beverages and I think it honestly makes me tighter at times….

I was so sure you called, he shows JT and you went and made a thread about it.

This was unexpected

Or that you folded and he showed you something else.

Pretty typical of these threads.

I saw results, but that was after I liked OmahaDonk's post. Definitely calling.

I would have put V on a fair amount of QQ/99 here as well. And never ever folding.