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03-12-2010 , 10:59 PM
Villain is one of the better players in the game but haven't seen him in the games recently. He plays 18/13, and tends to float more flops than raise them.

Some relevant history with 2 hands. First one, I raised MP and he called button, I check/folded a low card board. Second was me SB, him BB, I think 2 orbits ago, where I made a CB, he floated turn and I folded. Kind of felt like he was trying to play back in the time we sat together.

I think I made a mistake in this hand of not planning of what to do if he 3-bet. I definitely put myself in a tough spot here, but then looking at the board, I figured he could have enough flush draws/combo draws/air to make a shove okay? Or do I fold here?


Poker Stars $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+1: $1109.05
UTG+2: $1025.00
MP1: $1000.00
MP2: $1438.00
CO: $1136.00
BTN: $1144.00
Hero (SB): $1000.00
BB: $2633.55
UTG: $1288.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is SB with J A
7 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $20

Flop: ($60.00) 9 J 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $35, Hero raises to $110, BB raises to $270, Hero raises to $970 all in?

Last edited by Rampage_Jackson; 03-12-2010 at 11:05 PM.
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03-12-2010 , 11:19 PM
standard. is there any other way to play it after you decide to c/r? and I dont think you are exactly in a tough spot after the c/r on the flop.
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03-12-2010 , 11:24 PM
sucks that you have Ac
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03-13-2010 , 12:07 AM
would have rather played it out where villain could get last bet in... would make his range alot wider
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03-13-2010 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
would have rather played it out where villain could get last bet in... would make his range alot wider
Well said....this is an excellent concept you touch on.
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03-13-2010 , 04:06 AM
having Ac does suk a lot but raise folding is turninng TPTK into a bluff and I just don't like that
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03-13-2010 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
would have rather played it out where villain could get last bet in... would make his range alot wider
Meh, I doubt if he clicks it back or something, villain is going to spaz especially considering who the hero is. Which brings me to my other point which is that rampage has the Ac and is so nitty that this is probably not good.
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03-13-2010 , 06:34 PM
Was wondering about that Ac clubs... I'm pretty sure it's bad I hold it because it takes at the AcXc hands out of his range, but I get some extra equity if I'm up against a flush draw or set.
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03-13-2010 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks
Meh, I doubt if he clicks it back or something, villain is going to spaz especially considering who the hero is. Which brings me to my other point which is that rampage has the Ac and is so nitty that this is probably not good.
I think he meant that bet/3b and call allin would be better. But yea, I probably don't have an image to get him to call with anything worse like KJ.
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03-13-2010 , 07:19 PM
Like what Rosa and muk said. B/c or b/3b seems goot
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03-14-2010 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf
would have rather played it out where villain could get last bet in... would make his range alot wider
i like this

his 3bet is uber small and really looks like it wants action imo.. but if you feel you've been getting played back at a bit then nothing wrong with getting it in here

results?
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03-14-2010 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by slowlane123

results?
[x] owned

99
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03-14-2010 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampage_Jackson
[x] owned

99
[x] results orriented

this is fine...bvb, and Ac is pretty neutral since it does give you extra equity when you're a dog
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03-15-2010 , 12:34 AM
u probably dont cr this flop alot as the pfr im guessing, which i assume would make him curious as to wtf ur doing. ALso Cr flop doesnt seem like a great idea although im sure its still a profitable option in relativity to folding.
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03-16-2010 , 10:30 AM
very very standard imo.

i like the flop cr alot given the prior history this session.

i play it the same. in the BvB situation, imo i dont think the fact that we have the Ac makes alot of difference.
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03-16-2010 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by SecondChance
[x] results orriented

this is fine...bvb, and Ac is pretty neutral since it does give you extra equity when you're a dog
wut? it narrows the villains range by a number of factors.
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03-19-2010 , 02:35 PM
hey, what bout check callin the flop and going from there ?
or is this just to weak for you ?
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03-19-2010 , 04:18 PM
AJ isnt the best Jx hand to do that with
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03-22-2010 , 03:09 PM
what dertopf said
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03-22-2010 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dertopf
hey, what bout check callin the flop and going from there ?
or is this just to weak for you ?

too weak imho
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03-23-2010 , 09:23 PM
I like this C/R, but that's just me and I just can't stop check-raisin....
Since you probly don't do it that often (check raise your raised pots), it weakens the play and minimizes the made hands that will continue vs. you...
Usually, there's not that many hands out there that beat you...off the top of my head, you should really be worried about 55 and J9, but guess 99 can be there sometimes and maybe even a slowplayed JJ+.
Most of the time when you're jamming over the 3bet and they call, you're flipping with a big draw. Other times he folds, and the rare occasion you run into 55, 99 or J9...
See you at the tables...
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