I think so. I have used this as a reverse tell in the past. Snap shoving/raising with the nuts or close since it looks bluffier imo.

If you really want to shoot angles, you can dive into a long, complicated joke or story immediately after your 4-bet while looking directly at villain, trying your hardest to distract him. If he doesn't seem to care and acts anyway, he can't really have KK. If he get annoyed or refuses to act until you've given him some quiet time, watch out.

I didn't think much of it when I first read the history, but now I'm struck with how it looks like villain thought your raise was twice as big as it really was. I think this tell makes his calling range much stronger, for two reasons. First, bigger call means bigger hand, obviously. But also, his mistake indicates that he was tense and confused, which adds a lot of KK to his range because it's the only complicated / confusing / scary hand he could have.

I don't think you want to be facing a 5-bet here. And I think call > 6-bet-shove. Proceed with caution. I'd strongly consider checking back the flop and turn if checked to.

Just to clarify, I am not trying to shoot any angles. I thought a "mistaken 5b" could be a potential angle.

It could be, but it's very unlikely. Since its hu, and it sounds like the dealer was confusing, the right thing to do is let him do whatever he intended to do, and then play the hand. Shipping over an accidental min 5b caused by dealer vagueness (and he prob expected you to 4b bigger so it's easy to see his mistake) is an angle.

About the 4b or flat. I guess it depends where you are playing and gameflow and images. In LA, a lot of people are squeezing very wide one time with a lot of dead money in the middle. Almost none of them are 5b wide though in this spot--> you can 4b/fold comfortably.

Flatting the 3b is preferred if you think others behind you will fold, but if it's just going to build a huge multiway pot where you are going to be in the worst relative position, 4b is better IMO.

And just because you have a snug image and are UTG, that doesn't mean people won't squeeze. They will think you aren't stacking off light and that it's hard to get dealt AA or KK.

Tough spot that live offers fairly often. We have players behind so when V cbets an Axx flop he can still have air (he will take his shot on a Axx flop i think very often) but we cannot call with 2 players behind.

I dont love any of the options. We could flat and hope the trailers dont call. That would be my best choice but "aint gonna happen" often so that seems out. We can also get 4 bet from behind if we flat which would suck ballz too.

This deep I guess I would elect to look at the guy and give my best blink gut instinct as to whether he will play AK this deep OOP for a 5 bet opening himself for a 200bb shove. Our range will seem super strong so I feel that will not be that often unless he is the ipod hoodie type.

If I think he will be SF after my 4 bet and NOT play
AK for 200bb pre then I click it back to 820 and fold to 5 bet. (And I really dislike having to do this but i think having to play QQ 4 ways OOP mostly will allow far more mistakes that I might find out too late) This is pretty much if i feel that the 4 bet is without a doubt KK or AA which is fairly hard to figure at 10-20.

After writing this, I think I might defer to flat and accept the difficulties postlfop offers.

just flat and play postflop. sometimes the people behind will fold too, yknow.