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1/3nl, QQ oop, multi-way, line check 1/3nl, QQ oop, multi-way, line check

05-14-2012 , 12:40 PM
Looking for advice on a situation I was in the other night playing 1/3nl:

Villain 1(215): Late 20's asian, much more conservative than a traditional LAG asian, pretty solid, doesn't get out of line much other than occasionally raising light preflop in position

Villain 2(440): 20's black guy, very similar style to V1

Hero(315): 20's white guy, new to this particular game, so fairly unknown to villains, has just doubled a short stack within the orbit showing down 2 pair QJ vs 2 pair AQ, but has also shown down hands where loose calls were made preflop with what seems like ATC to the table

(7-handed at this point) Hero, 2nd utg, raises to 15 with QQ, folds to V1 in cutoff who calls, V2 on button 3-bets to 55 and it folds back to hero. I had a great read on this player considering the short period of time I had played with him, and was 99% sure he had AKos here. I had noted he 3-bet to 40 or 45 from 15 earlier with a big pair(and believe he values AKs the same), and I took his extra on top in this spot as his idea of increased fold equity from a non-made, unsuited hand. I thought the best line would be to take a flop, concealing my hand strength, and being sure he'd c-bet, I'd CRAI on an all unders flop which he might call feeling priced in, depending on how large his c-bet was. I did not think he would call a 4-bet pre. I flatted, and the other player sort of surprisingly called behind which I guess indicated he was becoming restless because the call makes no sense with his stack size and was out of character for him.
Pot ~ 165

Flop: QJ9

Hero??

Looking for ideas on the best line moving forward, and also welcoming opinions on different lines preflop.

Thanks in advance.
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05-14-2012 , 01:10 PM
Given the flop texture and having a surprising 2nd caller I think our plan needs to change on a flop like this. Originally we were going to try and trap our villain and try to get him to commit with A-high on a low ball board. The problem with that plan now is with a board like this it's hard to see A-high CBing, and given our surprise 3rd caller it's even less likely. Even if our villain has the A in his hand that still may not get the villain to CB. If we check this board we are doing so with the intent of seeing a free card on the turn.

I don't want to see a free card with top set on a board like this. We started the hand with 100bb-ish stacks and we flopped top set, this is a time to ram and jam. The pot is $165 and we've got $260 behind so any type of bet is going to commit us to this hand. I would go for a bigger bet here of around $135-$165 and call off to a shove.
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05-14-2012 , 01:24 PM
When V2 3bet previously, was he squeezing the original raiser AND a caller? If not, then you're not comparing apples to apples with regards to his 3bet sizing. If so, then I like your thought process preflop.

This flop slams both your range and V2's range, so rather than go for a C/R, I think I like leading more. Probably an even $100.
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05-14-2012 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PoppaTMan
When V2 3bet previously, was he squeezing the original raiser AND a caller? If not, then you're not comparing apples to apples with regards to his 3bet sizing. If so, then I like your thought process preflop.
When he 3-bet previously he actually was squeezing a couple limps in addition to a raise to 15 and a caller, but yeah it's about apples to apples, maybe macoun to red delicious, but apples nonetheless.
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