1/3: So Hero ($1100) has just moved to this new table 20-30 mins ago and hasn't played a hand.. table is full of cally players

Hero finally picks up a decent hand Q9ss OTB.. 3 limpers, Hero makes it $30 (questionable raise? Based on my image, I wanted to play the aggressive game rather than just limping away my stack)

V ($210) is a laggy gambooly fishy old man in BB and is playing every other hand and doesn't like to fold.. the other night, he called Hero's all in on a 10x23hh board with AhJd for $90 in a $100 pot and was praying for backdoor hearts when Hero flipped over an overpair... Tonight, he triple-barreled a low board with AQ once and KQ another time against another V and showed it both times.. also, he is capable of calling bets on multiple streets with draws and bluff sometimes when he misses.. so basically, he can be tricky ofc...

Back to the hand in question.. V in BB makes the call (wtf)


Flop ($70): J74r
V checks, Hero cbets $40 (questionable against this V?), V calls

Turn ($150): Qr
V checks, Hero checks (fancy play syndrome or pot control? by Hero)

River ($150): 3r
V bets $140 all-in, Hero ???

I was planning to call a smaller bet or bet the river myself, but this all-in scared the hell out of me.. it's like when I call, he shows up with 2 pairs, sets, straight or a better Q here, and when I fold, he would be bluffing.. but then again how many bluffs are in his range? Maybe he is capable of shoving AJo here for value or something, but he's also capable of shoving some weird straight draw.. but 56s could be in his range too idk..

What is the river card? Depending on that. I don't like the size of the flop bet. Additionally, I'm not a fan of the preflop raise size either with q9ss.

AP I fold on river.

I give credit to the villain.

Sorry, it was a 3 lol... scared me of something like 56, or two pairs.. coz V was stuck $500-600 from previous hour and was playing lotta hands now.. BUT again, he COULD easily be bluffing so I want to hit my head on the wall..

Btw, isn't the flop bet a standard cbet size???

Against a "cally" table and a station in the big blind typically you want to be raising pre for value, Q9s is on the boarderline.

1. rule against stations, only c-bet flops when you have some decent equity.
2. rule against stations, bet when you have a hand.

You have violated rules 1 and 2.

As played I probably call river. Check-Check-Shove line from this type of a villain? yum yum rumadumdum.

I would have limped preflop. We have a hand that will play fine multiway on the Button postflop and are cool with keeping a skyhigh SPR. Table is also cally, especially the BB, which means when he calls the raise there is a very good chance that others will as well (which means we have no FE postflop). Also, BB doesn't seem fit/fold, so it's not as if a cbet is going to take it down a lot. Not a bad result, but I'm guessing we may have gotten a little lucky.

Once we play preflop this way and get our intended (and expected) result, then we should continue with the plan. So I also cbet the flop. However, I doubt there is much reason to bet so much. I would simply go $25-$30 and see if that gets the job done.

On the turn, pot control is out the window because we only have $140 left in a $150 pot. Villain is interesting because he has shown to be both a calling station as well as a maniac bluffer (which is a rare combination of qualities, imo). Against bluffers, I would check back in order to induce the bluff. Against calling stations, I would shove to get called. I think calling station properties take precedence here, so I would shove.

As played, I snap call the river as our alternate route of inducing the bluff worked. If he actually has a hand, good for him. With this pot size and the bet being ~PSB, I don't think we should read anything into the sizing; really, the only bet size at this point is a shove.

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Hate myself but I folded the river, GG God alone knows why..