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02-04-2019 , 11:00 AM

KID777777

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Join Date: May 2018 Posts: 869

V (SB) - $450 plays too loose, calling too wide and raising too wide
Not unwilling to bluff postflop either. Is friendly with Hero and usually perceives me to be on the tighter side

H (BTN) - ~1.5k playing pretty straightforward tbh

H(BTN) opens $15 w/99, V flats SB and BB flats

Flop K

(45)
x to me, H 25, only V calls

Turn Q

(95)
x, H 50, V calls

River T

(195)
x, Hero ?

Bet sizing throughout and river decision thoughts??

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02-04-2019 , 01:21 PM

gobbledygeek

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I'm ok with hand until river (I might go slightly larger on some postflop streets against a guy who calls too much but whatever).

Tricky spot since he's capable of bluff/raising, but I think a lot of the hands he has ended up with here (such as two pair) don't really need to bluff. For me it's all how comfortable I'd feel folding to a check/raise, so if I don't feel comfortable I think checking back is ok (especially since on this runout he'll likely still fold a lotta hands we are targetting with a bet). Otherwise, I'd bet less than 1/2 PSB just to target some of the weaker hands (assuming a smallish bet isn't getting played back at).

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02-06-2019 , 01:46 AM

KID777777

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Thanks gg, I agree I could of sized postflop more, esp turn where I think most weak pairs that floated flop will give up, so I have to target his Kx instead of eeking a call out of the rest

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02-10-2019 , 11:41 PM

Nottonight

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Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 62

I am definitely sizing up on the turn here against player type, making it 70/75 in a scenario he ever raises im getting it in. River is definitely one of the worse cards for us I think as played you could put in a 1/3rd psb and target all his two pairs. But im weighing this up versus chance of him bluffing or playing a J this way which seems he might do. Cause a rr on river is probably a sigh fold. Really close with what I'm doing here but likely opting to check behind as played

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02-11-2019 , 12:06 AM

Minatorr

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5,235

bigger otf, bigger ott, check r

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02-11-2019 , 12:12 AM

CRAIerrday

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 424

Larger on the turn, as played bet/fold 100-115 on the river

He has way more Kx hands that became two pair on turn or river and will call a bet, and he has virtually no bluffing hands

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02-11-2019 , 01:18 AM

KT_Purple

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Join Date: Aug 2018 Posts: 553

agree a couple more reds on the turn, definitely bet river

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02-11-2019 , 01:24 AM

wait

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,115

More every street especially vs this villain. Do you have 9c?

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02-11-2019 , 03:24 AM

Badreg2017

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 1,682

Seems close but river looks like a check. Let’s say somewhat arbitrarily his KQo combos raise turn and the rest flat. Let’s also say his QJo folds flop and QJs calls.

Against a range of KQs, QJs, KJ, KT K9 we are ahead half the time. We do also beat some Q9/QT if they show up here and call but we lose to some backdoor flushes. We also have to factor in that we will get bluffed off our hands sometimes.

I probably size up flop if I don’t care about balance but def size up turn.

Overall I think it’s close enough that it’s a judgment call based on your image and what you think about villain but I think I default toward a check.

Results?

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02-11-2019 , 03:45 AM

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branch0095

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Flop sizing could be larger, but I'm okay with it. It's a fairly dry flop. Definitely sizing up turn. The board's getting a bit more dicey, there's a lot of bad river cards for you, and I don't expect his Kx hands to fold when it's very likely he's picked up a draw or possibly improved to 2p.

River is a x for me. V can have all the KJ combos, and the K on the board isn't a club which means V can have a good amount of Kx club combos. Mostly though, I think it's going to be very difficult to get called by worse when you triple barrel on this runout.

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02-11-2019 , 09:43 AM

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samo

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 4,252

I'd assume that 2pr/straight come alive on turn, so unless V rivered 2-pr betting seems on the thin side. I'd lean check, but could get on board with $85/evaluate itm.

As others have said, larger sizing given this opponent's image.

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02-12-2019 , 01:46 AM

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KID777777

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02-12-2019 , 03:24 AM

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Minatorr

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5,235

seems a little nitty of him to just flat river but with Qc/10c out there I like it, you have every Axcc here and few worse flushes and you prob fold AJ/Jx unless maybe AcJx

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