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[LOW] 1/3 NL Limp caller Donk bets into hero on paired board....

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07-06-2022 , 04:29 PM

NickelCityLaw

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1/3 NL stacks are about $500 effective hero covers

...two EP limpers , hero raises to $30 from the cut off with suited K8 S...button and blinds fold

...both limpers call

...flop is 8C, 7D, 7H....

early limper donks $35...second limper calls ...hero? raise call or fold?

Additional information: Both of these players are very loose passive regs....

on a previous hand the donk better here limp called my PF raise and donked into me where i whiffed with Q10 off and folded...

..and he showed 96 suited for a flopped 2 pair...

Thanks in advance for the analysis...

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07-06-2022 , 05:02 PM

ChaosInEquilibrium

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Seems like a clear cut call/evaluate turn. Both players will reveal more about the strength of their hand by their turn action. Let’s wait for that information.

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07-06-2022 , 05:23 PM

gobbledygeek

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Preflop is whatever for me although raising after 2 limpers from the CO with K8s seems a little on the aggro side to me. My default would be to fold if limpers have half a brain, and perhaps to call if they share half a brain between them.

For this price I would probably call the flop and evaluate what happens on the turn. Things are probably going to play out fairly honestly in a 3way pot on the turn, so if anyone looks to be putting in any money I probably get out of the way then. FWIW, passive players show up with overpairs here all the time (which is why preflop is so meh, imo).

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07-06-2022 , 05:51 PM

venice10

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The pf raise seems high to me if you're going to be raising things like K8s. Low stakes players don't have a range that will call 20 but fold 30 pf. Calling the flop is fine. Too early to fold.

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07-07-2022 , 11:46 AM

NickelCityLaw

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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium

Seems like a clear cut call/evaluate turn. Both players will reveal more about the strength of their hand by their turn action. Let’s wait for that information.

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07-07-2022 , 11:50 AM

NickelCityLaw

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek

My default would be to fold if limpers have half a brain, and perhaps to call if they share half a brain between them.

For this price I would probably call the flop and evaluate what happens on the turn. Things are probably going to play out fairly honestly in a 3way pot on the turn, so if anyone looks to be putting in any money I probably get out of the way then. FWIW, passive players show up with overpairs here all the time (which is why preflop is so meh, imo).

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LOL...yes these two definitely skewed more towards the half brain scenario...the reason i say that is they were both limping like 80% of their hands....and seemed content to call raises OOP and play fit or fold...i thought there might be value in raising them 10x....

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07-07-2022 , 11:57 AM

NickelCityLaw

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Originally Posted by venice10

The pf raise seems high to me if you're going to be raising things like K8s. Low stakes players don't have a range that will call 20 but fold 30 pf. Calling the flop is fine. Too early to fold.

Yes definitely ...i should have added that the game was match the stack so most of the stacks were $500 to $1200...with only 2 shorter stacks....most were opens were for $20...but yes i should have known I had little to no fold equity with these 2 villains...

Last edited by NickelCityLaw; 07-07-2022 at 12:23 PM.

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07-07-2022 , 12:19 PM

NickelCityLaw

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so i made a terrible fold on the turn without even realizing at the time that i was getting like 5 to 1 on a call...the call of the donk bet by the 2nd limper confused me into thinking he must be super strong calling with the initial raiser behind him.....

Turn was a brick (3C) it goes check,check...
River is a red King...check check
early limper tables 55 , 2nd limper tables Q8

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