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10-22-2022 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKon
Both are verbs and what I said was what was taught to me in college. I will trust the English department at Cal Poly, thank you.
Effect is primarily a noun. The verb usage of “effect” in the dictionary is not used in common writing (might be dated from old English). Affect is primarily a verb. The noun usage of “affect” is less common.

He affected her.
He had an effect on her.

Both say the same thing, but if you interchange the words it would be grammatically nonstandard, if not incorrect, with respect to modern usage.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 10-22-2022 at 12:48 PM.
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10-22-2022 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKon
Well, I disagree. Consider that the next person did raise 5x and the number of people that called - which was expected. So, that alone says an open/raise would have had the same effect.

Oh, and effect generally looks to the future and affect generally looks to the past. Consider the word: affected.
Then I raise even bigger. It’s not common but occasionally I’ll need to raise to $30 or $35 to thin the field. But if everyone calls with marginal hands when you raise that big then awesome, don’t have to win very many hands to make huge money.

It also still gives you the initiative in the hand which is a HUGE advantage.

PS thank you for notes on grammar haha, it’s good to know

Last edited by DonkFishy; 10-22-2022 at 03:05 PM. Reason: PS
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10-22-2022 , 03:23 PM
If people call $15 raises with 76o and 89o then tighten your range somewhat and pump up the raises until you get 1 or 2 callers.

I also want to say that even if you called, it wasn't a big mistake since you would have needed 33% to call, but only had 28% equity vs two nutted ranges consisting of sets, straights and two pair. If my math is correct, you re losing something like $25 on the play.

The forum has river bias because that's when all the big money goes in, but most players don't understand that the small preflop mistakes are far more numerous and add up.

Limping JTs is a bigger problem IMO, because you let ragged suited hands like K2s and Q3s limp behind you, so that when you hit your flush, you either can't bloat the pot aggressively enough or you get coolered.

Playing HU OOP is also miles easier than playing 5 ways OOP even if you have relative position.

You also can't take advantage of the fact you are the PFR and cbet to take down the pot, which is an advantage that adds up.

Last edited by OvertlySexual; 10-22-2022 at 03:40 PM.
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10-22-2022 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Effect is primarily a noun. The verb usage of “effect” in the dictionary is not used in common writing (might be dated from old English). Affect is primarily a verb. The noun usage of “affect” is less common.

He affected her.
He had an effect on her.

Both say the same thing, but if you interchange the words it would be grammatically nonstandard, if not incorrect, with respect to modern usage.
Well, I decided to look it up and while "effect" can be a noun (to my amazement), it is primarily a verb. I never learned the "the outcome of an event or situation that created a change" rule.

I guess you learn something new every day. Still, it's a small enough thing that I'm not going to change a lifetime of usage.
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10-22-2022 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKon
Well, I decided to look it up and while "effect" can be a noun (to my amazement), it is primarily a verb. I never learned the "the outcome of an event or situation that created a change" rule.
This is flat-out false and I can’t help but to continue the derail because I know better. Editorial work is part of my job.

effect is primarily a noun, affect is primarily a verb. Full stop. Vast majority of written usages of these words would be of that form. effect can be a verb (to “effect” change) but that usage is uncommon.

Probably my post won’t have much of an effect. (See there’s the common noun usage of “effect” — if you put “affect” there it would be a grammatical error)

If you want another source here is the first Google article on “effect vs affect” from Merriam-Webster:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...age-difference

>>” Affect and effect are two of the most commonly confused words in English, but don’t worry—we’ll help you keep them straight.

The basic difference is this: affect is usually a verb, and effect is usually a noun..”
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10-23-2022 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
This is flat-out false and I can’t help but to continue the derail because I know better. Editorial work is part of my job.

effect is primarily a noun, affect is primarily a verb. Full stop. Vast majority of written usages of these words would be of that form. effect can be a verb (to “effect” change) but that usage is uncommon.

Probably my post won’t have much of an effect. (See there’s the common noun usage of “effect” — if you put “affect” there it would be a grammatical error)

If you want another source here is the first Google article on “effect vs affect” from Merriam-Webster:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...age-difference

>>” Affect and effect are two of the most commonly confused words in English, but don’t worry—we’ll help you keep them straight.

The basic difference is this: affect is usually a verb, and effect is usually a noun..”
Jesus dude, take a chill pill. I pulled my reference from google and whatever is technically correct, it isn't THAT relevant. All I know is both what I was taught back in the stone ages of the late 70s and early 80s along with what I know is common usage. Besides, "affect" isn't a person, place, or thing, it's an action.

So, if you will excuse me I have to grab my wife by her hair and drag her into my cave.
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10-24-2022 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKon
Both are verbs and what I said was what was taught to me in college. I will trust the English department at Cal Poly, thank you.
You should have gone to a better school. Oh well, I guess you live and learn.
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