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1/3 Live HA - QT & 88 1/3 Live HA - QT & 88

02-25-2017 , 07:30 AM
Hero decent image... action table.
Villain - aggro reg running good, raise in position always flop good
EP limps, Hero limps in MP, HJ limps as well, folds to villain in BB who raises to 16, EP folds, me and HJ call, I limped because villain has been raising so often that I didn't wanna get 3 betted with just QTo. please dont say fold pre here , QT is decent in this loose table and hero has been card dead for a while. Don't mind taking high variance route.

Flop ($52): QsJc7d , Villain bets 25, hero calls, HJ folds

Turn ( $102 ): 5c , villain bets 45, hero calls again putting him on maybe A high or 2 napkins

River ( $192 ) :10s , villain bets 80, hero... ?

Hand 2:

Hero ($300) limps with 88 to villain on button knowing he will raise and he did to 26, EP calls, i call , everyone else folds. 3 to the flop , villain covers, EP has $150

Flop ($85): Jh8h6h , EP bets 30, i call, Villain raises to 100, EP calls 100, Hero calls 100

Turn($385) 4c , EP shoves remaining $50ish, i call, villain reshoves and puts me all in i have ard $120 at this point... HERO CALLS?

Results will follow
1/3 Live HA - QT & 88 Quote
02-25-2017 , 08:42 AM
Hand 1- first limp pre is meh, fold to the raise pre. You're overvaluing QTo here. I know you don't want to hear it but fold pre.

Hand 2 - if V is super loose OTB consider limp/rr'ing w 88. As played raise your first opportunity on the flip and shove the second time it gets to you. As played call turn.
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02-25-2017 , 08:58 AM
Fold pre dude. You're in position on this guy, but not on the rest of the field. Taking the passive route with an easily dominated hand is asking for trouble. If you want to play it, raise yourself. If the super loose guy 3!, you should 4! bluff.

3! shove pre. This is a really good spot to l/rr.
1/3 Live HA - QT & 88 Quote
02-25-2017 , 09:20 AM
First hand either raise pre or fold to raise
Qto while looks good is just trash when raise with callers in rhe long run
2nd hand i like the limp rr pre but either way is fine
In the flop am never folding unless another heart peels off and even then and probably still calling it off
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02-25-2017 , 11:27 AM
Your giving yourself difficult post flop decisions because of poor pre-flop decision making here in my opinion. If you want to play qtoff in middle position you need to bring it in with a raise. By limp calling we have ended up in a multiway pot with a marginal hand that even when we hit top pair we aren't sure what to do, and when we river two pair we don't know where we are at. As described you call this river, but we are in a marginal spot that we shouldn't be especially against the villa described, wait for a better spot.......which brings us to the second hand which is a better spot.
The limp re-raise as stated above would be good, but the limp call is again getting us into a difficult spot with no information and what is likely to be a marginal eV spot. Re-raise against this villain with a gii pretty mindset. As played getting it in on the flop knowing we have good eV with the opportunity to boat up.
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02-25-2017 , 01:44 PM
First hand: I don't love QTo so I don't overlimp with it in middle position. Eep when I think someone is likely to raise, even if I'll have position. I don't love calling raises with QTo either. And if I do call a raise with QTo, I don't want anyone behind me. With the HJ yet to act, and likely to overcall, I don't like this spot. At all.
Once we see the flop, I don't think we have any other play but to call, call, call. If we're good on the flop, we're good on the turn. River improves our hand, but we're far from the nuts. QJ is a better 2 pair, AK and K9 both got home. So raising is a bit thin.
Post flop play seems fine. Pre flop play, you said you don't want to hear about.

Second hand: with $300 to start the hand and facing a raise to $26, you're not getting great odds to set mine. So limp-calling doesn't seem optimal. It's not a terrible play but it's thin.
As played, calling the EP $30 lead seems fine, esp since you think the initial raiser might re-raise. Once he makes it $100, I'd shove when the action comes back around. No reason to mess around here. You know EP is calling with his short stack. Pot is now so big relative to stacks that just calling here makes little sense.
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03-11-2017 , 11:13 AM
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03-13-2017 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by darthEez
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hand 1 i call, villain shows AK for rivered nut straight

hand 2 i call, river was 4 pairing the board and i scooped everything, aggro villain had 95hh and other dude had TPNFD
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03-13-2017 , 11:59 AM
H1:

With QTo in MP, it's a trivial fold preflop both times, especially at an action table that is unlikely to limp around, and it's not close, imo. But you can do whatever you want. What does being card dead have to do with anything?

Dude didn't raise in position this time, he raised out of the blinds, which is much stronger. If you take a typical tight blind raising range of TT+/AQ+, we're ahead of AK (who is actually doing ok against us) and TT (which is unlikely combowise and might be unlikey to lead this flop into two opponents) and crushed by everything else. But you can do whatever you want and keep putting your opponent on napkins.

By the river, TT/AK just got there, although we did move ahead of some hands.

GfoldingstationG

Last edited by gobbledygeek; 03-13-2017 at 12:07 PM.
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03-13-2017 , 12:04 PM
H2:

I'm ok with preflop, although I'm guessing we were hoping a few others came along for the ride.

Unfortunate other guy donked the flop, it's put us in a bit of a tough spot. Kinda doubt the raiser is going to get too out-of-line to a donk and a call, so my guess is by flatting we simply allow him to see a cheap flush draw. So I'd probably raise, and at this point probably just put the shortstack donker all in. As played, trivial shove when it comes back to us, what are we waiting for? We're only going to have a 1/2 PSB left and we're committed, just get it in now before a stoopid turn comes.

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