hero early 30s only been at table a little over an hour haven't gotten out of line

villian is in his 40s, asian, LAG, opening a lot of pots and barrelling often, you know the type

eff stacks $450

UTG limps, hero UTG+1 raises to $12 with black KK, OMC calls next to act, folds to villain in CO who 3bets to $30, folds back to hero 4bets to $100, folds to villain who flats pretty quickly

flop ($215): Qd Jd 8s

hero???

I would raise to $15-18 over a limper when we are in ep. My 4b sizing is probably around $80 there as well given V's 3b sizing.

Flop really isn't that bad for us. I think lead $75 is best on this flop. If V raises I think we can 3b/GII here profitably.

Think you are pot committed on any non A board. I would try to bet whatever makes it look most like ak

Not bad becasue most of his range has equity and will likely stack off? I'm genuinely asking because of all non Axx flops, this one is pretty far down my list.

Perfect spot to l/r.

As played, obvious x/c, x/c, x/c is obvious.

Never ever folding.

If this guy is as barrel happy as you say, then I would check/shove. Against most players, I would bet $150.

Crazy hand.

OP, more on villain? He's LAG... but is he any good? Is he a maniac? Any sense for his range for 3-betting? You said he's opening a lot of pots, but you didn't say he's 3-betting a lot. And how about his range for calling your 4-bet? I mean, playing LAG is one thing... but calling the 4-bet for nearly 25% of stacks is pretty unusual and not really "LAG," anyway ... obviously calling is a passive action.

So we can't know what it means unless you tell us more about villain and your thoughts about possible ranges.

Thing is, if he's any good, he should have AA a ton.

table seemed pretty soft and he was barreling ppl off their hands a lot in the limited amount of action i had seen up to that point. weren't too many opportunities to be 3betting since the table was rather passive, since OMC called behind me i don't think he's necessarily FOS too often but still a strong possibility.

one hand he isod huge pf and barreled someone off their hand and he lifted his cards a bit too high when mucking and i spied a 7, kind of a weird card to have after isoing huge pf (about the same amount as his 3b size this hand). i was waiting for a spot to 3bet bluff him PF but this hand happened first.

just came off gamboly but not a complete maniac he was playing prob 40-50% of his hands. as far as his 4b call range, yeah i agree being LAG doesn't change his range too much from most players, that's why i think this is a bad flop for my hand. qq/jj hit their set, ak/tt has a gutshot, flush draws shouldn't be too heavily counted imo except for exactly akdd. 2pairs/pair+GS also still possible but not as likely as a single raised hand.

he never has AA here, if he's any good he'd know i'm stacking of pf 95%+ of the time there.

A good player will flat with AA in position here a ton.

And really... you're 4-bet/snap stacking off 150BB 95% of the time to a 5-bet shove that is laying you 1.6:1?

I mean... it's hard to fold KK. But that is no snap call.

I don't understand your read on villain. He certainly doesn't sound like a good LAG at all. Playing 40-50% of hands is almost always going to be incredibly spewy. You say he's not a complete maniac... but is he a semi-maniac? Barreling a lot at a passive table sounds bad. 3-bet/calling a 4-bet is usually going to be pretty bad unless he has AA imo. I mean.. what is your raise/4-bet range here? It's probably not too good for TT, JJ, etc.

never said he was good, semi-maniac willing to gamble would be an accurate description. thing is i have no history vs him so my reads aren't 100% accurate, and on the other hand he has no idea how i play. my raise/4b range here is almost irrelevant bc he has no idea that i could 4b light here, but vs him it's something like AA-JJ/AK/AQs and bluffs.

feel like chk/shove flop probably just makes my life easy and might be the best line to take here, however i cbet $70 and he jammed. so hating life at this point haha

Haha, got it. Yeah, check/get it in is probably best then. I mean, given your read, he's certainly more likely to shovel chips into the pot with a wider range than if you bet.

As played, yeah. Sounds like he can call the 4-bet a lot wider than I would normally guess. So could he shove TT here? 99? JTs? Flush draws? AQ? Really not sure man.

Either way, we have an overpair in a 4-bet pot with an SPR of 1.5 and just under 40% of our stack in the middle after the c-bet.

Villain is a semi-maniac to boot. You're definitely not bet/folding here.

All-in, good luck.

I honestly think we are making the biggest mistake by check/jam. If we check jam we take AK/AQs out of his range and that is what we want value from, and if he ever checks back we let that range realize it's equity. If we are only against his value range right here then this spot sucks imo.

+1. flop is easy b/c, esp vs this guy.

check it to him on the flop. make a read on his bet and then CR all in or fold.

that flop is really not that bad. he most likely has lots of big aces in his range.

He's a semi-maniac playing up to 50% of hands, barreling often, etc.

If we bet, for sure, we'll get all in vs. a lot of hands.

But I think if we check, we get all in vs even more and weaker hands, or at least win another bet vs. weaker hands when we check/shove.

Doesn't sound like this V is likely to check back with hands that continue when we bet. Nor is he likely to bet/fold with any of those hands. So I don't see the downside of checking.

Yet he certainly sounds like someone who will bet with w/e he has when we check to him in position.

I´m just not sure about that. hero´s read is he likes to barrel, but not he´s a complete spewtard you autobets his whole range once checked to.

imo he sounds like your classic fish, just a little more aggressive, and probably makes the mistake of 3betting too wide and esp calling a 4bet way too wide with whole 3betting range. He might have enough common sense though to not fire total air, but will most likely call. board is wet, he likely got a piece of it, I´m not sure why we should be fancy here and check when we don´t really have the read to back it up. and in my opinion, we don´t have that read.