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01-24-2019 , 05:30 PM

acepokerblog

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My position is UTG+1. I have $200. Everyone has me covered.

UTG raises to $25. I look down at AQo.

My read is that there is a good chance that UTG is raising only with AQo+ and JJ+. He also seems like the loose passive fit-or-fold type.

The table is loose so there is a good chance of 2-3 overcalls if I cold-call. The chance of a 3bet is probably low because I think the two LAGs/tricky players on the table are going to fear the raise since the preflop raiser has not shown any aggression preflop until now. Plus, he is UTG.

What do you do?

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01-24-2019 , 05:40 PM

megamen70

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fold

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01-24-2019 , 05:51 PM

johnnyBuz

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Snap fold. Nice hand. Next hand.

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01-24-2019 , 05:51 PM

gobbledygeek

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My default play with AQo is to fold to a preflop raise, and even easier to a tight raiser in EP. Conditions can change that, such as a loose opener or a lotta dead money.

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01-24-2019 , 06:00 PM

DumbosTrunk

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I'm folding based on player description but moreso sizing. $25 at 1/3 is almost always a monster that crushes AQo (or AQs for that matter).

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01-24-2019 , 07:01 PM

Ragequit99

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Fold is good

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01-24-2019 , 08:38 PM

browni3141

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One of the easiest "tough" fold pres ever. I'm also folding AQs given your reads. AKo would be interesting.

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01-24-2019 , 08:54 PM

thecobb8

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Sigh internally and fold.

At these low levels i've seen a high % of the time a large raise utg is super strong unless V is really loose. Your position is not great and even if you slam an A otf if he raised AK pf you're getting stacked.

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01-24-2019 , 09:11 PM

m0mmy

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Your not deep enough. Fold. Once you call this huge raise your gonna be way too pot committed.

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01-24-2019 , 09:20 PM

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KID777777

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Fold

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01-24-2019 , 11:11 PM

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johnny_on_the_spot

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if you hit the flop it feels like you're either going to play for stacks and lose or win a tiny pot OTF.

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01-25-2019 , 02:17 AM

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wait

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Even I fold

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01-25-2019 , 03:03 AM

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browni3141

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Originally Posted by wait

Even I fold

Lol, was waiting for you to say to stick it in his eye.

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01-25-2019 , 03:49 AM

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WereBeer

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Problem is 66bb because he will just ship over the top with most of his range and be ahead.

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01-25-2019 , 07:40 AM

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ChrisV

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Originally Posted by WereBeer

Problem is 66bb because he will just ship over the top with most of his range and be ahead.

That's not really the main problem, the main problem is OP is putting him on a range that AQo is a 2 to 1 dog against and a substantial chance to be behind against even if it hits the flop.

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Originally Posted by thecobb8

Sigh internally and fold.

I'm not sighing internally here whatsoever, I'm happy that it's clear what to do. It's good that I got dealt AQ vs whatever this guy has in UTG v UTG+1 and not in CO v BTN. Look at things as situations, not as hands, and you'll sigh internally a lot less.

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01-25-2019 , 08:24 AM

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hyperknit

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Quick fold.

(I like to make a big helicopter fold here and try to land it on the dealers arm. Sometimes it flips up and it could tilt UTG

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01-25-2019 , 09:12 AM

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snowman

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Originally Posted by wait

Even I fold

Mods someone must have hacked Waits account

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01-25-2019 , 09:27 AM

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colt45ss

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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz

Snap fold. Nice hand. Next hand.

exactly
if read is correct why fight at best a coin flip

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01-25-2019 , 01:15 PM

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acepokerblog

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Thanks everyone.

I folded.

He had AQo and tank called down massive bets on every street vs one of the LAGs.

The LAG had 3c 2c. He triple barreled a board of Qd 8h 3d 6d Jc.

LOL.

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01-25-2019 , 01:49 PM

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gobbledygeek

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Originally Posted by browni3141

AKo would be interesting.

I think (???) I would probably flat AK. My goal is to bring along a dominated A/K behind us and make money off of them postflop (as obviously I'm not making money off of raiser's QQ- on A/K boards postflop). Although it is for a huge percentage of stack, and we'll be OOP to anyone who calls behind us, and things could get messy on K high boards when raiser continues on multiple streets (and with this small SPR stacks will be in play by the turn). I don't think folding would be horrible (and if we were in the BB and it was folded to us that would be my default here against a tight EP range).

GcluelessNLnoobG

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