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07-05-2022 , 09:31 AM
1/3 game, effective stacks 800.

I am playing for fun, so I play too loose preflop, but tend to tighten up postflop and try not make too many stupid plays. Generally get paid off good if I make a hand, the table probably view me as a loose fish. Probably they´re right, but I play poker to have fun and not to fold for two hours straight.

Villain:
Plays solid preflop, though not one of the tighter players and one of few who straddles. Seems good, willing to bluff if he senses weakness, and to go call down/go for thin value. I actually like his playing style, since he´s not a complete nit. We have some history from my last session a week ago, when I got insanely lucky in a huge pot. We were playing the Seven-Deuce Game, I three-bet 7c2c from the straddle to 75, got two callers. Flop J9x with one club, checks to me, I bet 100, V calls. Turn is 8c, giving me the gutshot and flushdraw. He checks, I bet 200, he raises all-in to 600, and I am forced to call it off and hit a ten to win a huge pot.

Hand:
1/3/6/12, I am in the second straddle. Folds to V in the first straddle who calls, I make it 37 to go with 88, he calls.

Flop (Pot: 78): Kc 4d 2h
He checks, I bet 30 for value, he calls.

Turn (Pot: 138): 7d
He checks, I bet 55, he check-raises to 175 with 450ish behind.

I call with the intention of calling many non-diamond rivers.

How is this play?

My thinking is that his range should contain very few kings and pocket pairs, since he would raise these hands preflop against me. That leaves very few value combos that he can have on this board considering his preflop play. His most likely combos are a draw/combo-draw and I should be ahead against most of his range, and I´m not afraid to call the river if I think he is bluffing.

Last edited by ReGen; 07-05-2022 at 09:50 AM.
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07-05-2022 , 01:21 PM
Fold turn, imo. Standard Baluga Theorem spot. Especially if 72 game is on.
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07-05-2022 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ReGen
I bet 200, he raises all-in to 600, and I am forced to call it off and hit a ten to win a huge pot.
What did he end up having here? This is a huge piece of information in order to make the right decision in the hand posted. He's gotta show first, so hopefully you let him do so ; )

I don't see how calling is gonna be good here anyway, depending on what he had in the hand from before.

I could deviate away from the BWT if we had certain reads on players but I don't see one here so far.
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07-05-2022 , 02:47 PM
Why did you bet the turn?
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07-06-2022 , 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
What did he end up having here? This is a huge piece of information in order to make the right decision in the hand posted. He's gotta show first, so hopefully you let him do so ; )

I don't see how calling is gonna be good here anyway, depending on what he had in the hand from before.

I could deviate away from the BWT if we had certain reads on players but I don't see one here so far.
I tabled my hand as soon as I hit and he mucked.

With regards to reads, I do have more info to go on, but since I don´t take notes I am not really sure which of these hands happened before or after the hand in question. For example, I double through this player when I flopped a straight on a T86 board when I raised his flop bet and got it in on a K turn (which improved by hand to straight+FD). I have value bet him quite thin a couple of times in smaller pots, and folded in a few similar spots as this one (albeit for smaller amounts) when I was weak.
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07-06-2022 , 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Why did you bet the turn?
Because I think I have the best hand a good amount of time and given my table image and previous pots I think he might call with worse on this board and won´t fold draws for this price. There aren´t really that many combos that beat me here that are realistic given his preflop play.

72 game was not on.
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07-06-2022 , 06:59 PM
I would rather bluffcatch my weaker Kings here. I guess with position and his weak preflop play you have KTo and K-rag-suited here right? Also 56s, 96s, 86s and NFDs. If you consider AK+ to be the effective nuts, I think you have many hands you can call with and just fold 88. You should probably range him and see what you come up with, it should be an interesting exercise because action pre rules out nutty preflop but also rules in many hands postflop. I guess he raises reasonably wide call = junk, so is he auto-calling all that junk when you raise to 37? Does he have 22/44 here or would he raise that pre? Is he raising all his draws including gutters? Generally if someone is indiscriminate with their draws, they are raising too often.
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