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1/2NL Turned 2pair, now what? 1/2NL Turned 2pair, now what?

11-14-2010 , 08:42 PM
Game is $1/2 NL, 40 max buy-in (lol)

I've been at the table for a few hours, Villain sat down about 2 orbits ago. Hasn't really shown down anything special. I am the "big stack" on this table and have been playing TAG in position and tight/passive OOP.

Villain in MP1(~$65)

6 or 7 limpers iirc, Hero in SB (~$180) wakes up w/ A6 Hero completes SB, BB checks.

Pot ~$15


My plan is to check/fold all flops that don't give me 2pair, trips, flush or FH with rare exception to top pair. Check/call if I flop a flush draw & am given odds.

Given that plan, should I still fold SB? Is completing SB w/ this hand gradual spew? Is my plan -EV?

Flop: 6QT

Checked around.
Pot ~$15

Turn: A

Hero??

How much should I bet? What's 2p2's plan for the rest of the hand?

Thanks
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11-14-2010 , 09:21 PM
No short stack expert but pre seems fine. Shoving can't be too bad if people aren't calling light.

Just b/f 10 on the turn.
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11-14-2010 , 09:22 PM
complete sb for sure
ott its either a small bet/fold or check and see what ends up hapenning

if it checks round vbet river if theres a bet call it and if theres a bet and a raise it might be time to go

20bb deep so :| but 7 or 8 way someones likely to have hearts
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11-14-2010 , 09:30 PM
B/F on turn, 10 or so. Preflop is fine but I can't say I have experience playing against multiple 20BB stacks.
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11-15-2010 , 12:49 AM
Turn: A

Hero bets $12.

Folds to villain who min-raises to $24. All fold to hero.

Pot: ~$51

Hero??

At this point, I didn't know how to interpret the min-raise. I've seen the "dreaded min-raise" used by weak players as a sort of "see where I'm at" bet w/ a nut flush draw live. But, it could mean pure strength, too. Thoughts?

Looks like folding here is the consensus.

Does a min-raise change this? - essentially giving us ~4:1 explicit odds to
1) Bluff catch a busted 1pair+flush draw hand
2) Value bet worse 2pair/worse Aces

or implied odds (though not huge) to river a FH.
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11-15-2010 , 12:54 AM
call c/f river
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11-15-2010 , 01:00 AM
basically if u plan on calling u should shove. but im gonna need some good reads on Vil to do tht, i mean a str8 also completed. I guess we can call the 12 trying to get a FH since we know we are going to get the rest of his chips if we hit.

it sucks u got 2 pair but i wouldnt call but tbh there are times when i shove here and im always beat and then i feel like posting the hand here but i dont.

his range is so wide but when do 1/2 players ever min raise on a board with a flush and str8 out after checking flop and only have TP?
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11-15-2010 , 01:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MK7749
it sucks u got 2 pair but i wouldnt call but tbh there are times when i shove here and im always beat and then i feel like posting the hand here but i dont.
This is not a BVB post, I promise. I'm interested in learning how to make correct/+EV plays.

FWIW I called, hit a 6 on river and stacked villain who had KJ for a turned straight

Looking back, though, I was a little upset w/ myself for being behind in the hand and having to suck out to win so I just wanted to see if I made a correct play or not.

Last edited by donkey xote; 11-15-2010 at 01:18 AM. Reason: added villain's hand
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11-15-2010 , 01:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MK7749
his range is so wide but when do 1/2 players ever min raise on a board with a flush and str8 out after checking flop and only have TP?
very good point.
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11-15-2010 , 01:56 AM
if we call he checks back river with most of the hands we beat so if he barrels river we can easily c/f

as played ott we have decent odds, a few outs and we're good enough of the time to call (we need to be good like 1/5 times to breakeven) though still beat a big % of the time
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