this hand i played was more concerning to me on the flop than any other street and wasnt to sure how things should have went but here goes. i didnt have any reads on villan in this hand he was relatively new to the table and havnt seen any action really, i was 250$ deep and he had me covered

utg calls 2,utg+1 calls 2, lp calls 2 hero in sb raises to 17$ and get 3 callers

pot:65$
flop: 5 8 9 two hearts
action: hero bets 35$, utg folds, utg+1 raises to 80$, lp folds, hero calls

pot:225$
turn: 6 of spades
action: hero checks, utg+1 checks

pot:225$
river:6 of dimonds
action: hero checks, utg+1 bets 90$

on the flop i put him on a super wide range of either possible draws and combo draws, sets, 2 pairs, very slim but also possible straights. which is why i had such a hard time thinking of the right way to have played the hand and dont know if it would have been better to ship the flop or tried to get to showdown cheap or possibly fold if the turn and river are bad cards. when he checks the turn i thaught it was really weird there and thaught a lot of his range on the flop would continue except 2 pairs or maybe draws trying to get a free card. i could see a set both checking and betting. on the river i think 2 pair might check there, also figure straights might of bet the turn since there was possible flush draws so i would assume either a busted flush draw or a full house but the whole hand got me confused either way

calling flop raise OOP sucks on such wet board. I'd just close my eyes and ship it on the flop vs unknowns.Folding is certainly OK if you have solid reads on your opponents like they are TAG nits or very passive types of players.As played,i'd probably just cry call vs this dude given our passive line and missed flush draw.

I think you played the hand very well. I would call the river.

Just about everything beats you except a busted fd or a flopped 2 pair in his range. With out reads i think this is definitely a fold. xh 6h or xh 7h seem very possible. A lot of players probably realize you have an over pair here a decent amount of the time.

He is giving you 3.5-1 on your money with that small river bet. It's screaming pay me with the exact type of hand you have. I toss them into the muck personally.

If villain figures hero has and over pair, and he has an overpair beat then why is he checking the turn? I also find it unlikely that he made a straight with a flush redraw and then decided to check.

Think you can make it $20/$25 PF.

I'm not in love with calling the flop. I think re raising is significantly better.

Majority of villain's range consists of TP type hand or 8-9. With villain checking behind on turn, a straight is unlikely, or I should rather say a straight would not check turn given FD possibility out there. With board pairing, I would definitely call here and expect villain to flip over 8-9

Absolutely agree here

shove for value? only 60 ish more. our hand is underepped here. OBV we need better reads and I know OP said player is new to table and such.

either way in a vaccuum shove river is probably what id do.

Good point. If we think we're good here we should ship shouldn't we?

I call, and expect to mostly see a set that rivered a boat. But sometimes I expect to see something we beat like JJ, 1010, busted FD.

I think you have to add A9 to his range here - especially if he's putting you on AK or AQ and now thinks he's outflopped you. And then like a donk he thinks he should bet the river with his 9.

Since he checked back the turn, I would call the river. I can't see how a hand like a set or better would check the turn. He probably limped called with 89, 910, or A9.

I think you should call the river. No really need to shove IMO. I think this guy has 89 or some big 9 like A9, K9, etc. and thinks his two pair is good on the river.

Sometimes you will run into the set, but him checking the turn is really really odd, and screams I have two pair two me, which you just counterfeited him.

To me, this is an insta call for a couple of reasons:

He checks the turn, which is immediately suspicious. If he has the straight draw, the 6 most likely completes it or helps him out in some way and he's betting this turn. My only other thought here is that he has the flush draw, hoped that the flop didn't hit you, and semi-bluffed on the flop.

The re-raise on the flop means one of a few things: Hes most likely semi bluffing a flush draw, he hit top pair and is trying to take the pot down now, or he is just trying to be cute and make a move on a wet board.

With the tiny bet on the river, even against an unknown opponent this is an automatic call. Worse comes to worse and he flopped the nuts, you payed for some information on his betting and you lost the smallest amount possible.

Why can't he check the turn with a made hand or set? or with 6x? He's not getting 3streets of value very often if you have an over-pair.. and he doesn't have to know that you don't have a lot of 7's in your range.. he could be afraid with bottom set thinking you have a higher set even! Or just be "slow-playing". These thought processes are very standard with LLS players IMO.

I probably fold the river, but it's definitely close. He still has busted flushes/J10 type hands in his range, maybe an airball every once in a while.

Here is my take on all this.

The range of player types is sorta large here. There are a lot of villains that love to c/r when they hit their hands. Similarly there are abc players that just play their hands straight up, then there are clueless players that make the wierdest bets that defy all logic. And of course you have aggro players that try to win through betting with no thought as to what you are repping...

In this situation I see several possibilities.

Villain has JTs and c/r flop hoping to take it down right then and there and if called has outs. River comes, he misses his draw and then tries for a weak value bet bluff hoping he folds out AK/AQ

Villain flopped gin and is just a re.tard and has no idea how to play it effectively (I don't think this is likely).

Villain flopped a set and the turn card scared him (though if he was decent he should know a 7 is rarely in Hero's range here).

Villain flopped two pair, river counterfieted him, and he is spazzing out.

Villain was on a flush draw, missed, and is now trying to win with a weak value bet bluff...

Villain has TPGK type hand and is actually betting river for value.

Add up all of these scenarios in a pokerstove-esque manner and calling in this spot is +EV.

So I call. Not even a crying call. I call thinking we are good 60%+ of the time.