Shove turn if Donk has 2 pairs you have between 3 (if he has K8) and 8 outs (if he has 83 86 or 63), but you dominate too many Kx to fold, for sure he might show up with funky 2 pairs but if the guy is really ******ed , he will also go crazy with a KT hand

whale is calling 100%, it's more like 3-bet more pre

Whale has $90 behind don't see why tank/shove snap/shove would matter

you surely must've known more about his ch/c, donk big range than you've told us?

I mean so far all we know is his pre-flop tendencies which would make this an easy shove

I just meant is it an easy decision?

All I know is he is really randomly shoving (sometimes he will shove pre 3 or 4 times in a row - 250bb stack), I really dont know how to make sense of his plays, i just identified anything he does as random

If I saw someone online playing 100/2/4 then TPGK against them is to be treated like the nuts. So if you have already seen the whale shove with worse than top pair, then this is an easy call.

Ride the variance train!

man this is a tough spot and i like the way you played the hand up to this point

your flop bet was perfect, i like the small bet to induce a spazz and to underrep your hand and you have nothing to be afraid of with that board. our problem is that you dont have any postflop tendencies on whale other than he is random. but in situations like this i dont think he just randomly spews off postflop and donks for nearly all his chips. especially with no draws out there he has to have 2 pr+ or absolutely nothing, i dont think hes doing this with worse kings. i find a fold

to those that say heros 3b is bad and giving so much credit to EP villain why? they are 6 handed and a wahle in the blinds, meaning EP is probably opening much wider. id be 3b much lighter than this if i am confident whale will call. and if whale happens to fold and villain calls, play some poker, you have position. how is kq completely dominated by villains 3b calling range? because he only continues with ak/aq/qq+?

nh so far, what are results?

ok then shove turn

Initial whale's stack noted does not add up to what is stated later. ~500ish is not the same as $440, not that it matters much.

This is a sh**ty spot. Folding could be a mistake, so could be calling. I just don't see what whale could have here. I think everybody's guess is as good as mine.

The logic says fold....PS says snap....(I even included trash like 83o in whales pre flop calling range )


Board: Kh 8d 3c 6s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 50.473% 48.07% 02.40% 2644 132.00 { KQo }
Hand 1: 49.527% 47.13% 02.40% 2592 132.00 { KK, 88, 66, 33, AKs, K2s+, 86s, 83s, 63s, AKo, K2o+, 86o, 83o, 63o }

I think I really have to have very specific read on/history with the whale to make this call. Even morons like him make big hands. I have committed only 20% of my stack and am not committed, and I can't even imagine somone trying to pull a bluff like this unless he is totally and utterly a spewtard.

Pre is fine for the logic you stated in OP. FFS just bet more OTF and try to stack the whale over two streets.

bump for results

This is a shove 112% of the time against described V.

Lol he slow rolled me and flipped over K8 for flopped top two
Dont need to say he dumped his whole stack on a bluff ten minutes later, he left and the game broke right away