Villan just sat down, this is his second hand at the table. He bought in for $200. I have never seen him before so I doubt he has any reads on me either.

Hero is white, early 20s, been at the table for about 5 hours now. Stack $210 at this time of this hand.


Preflop
UTG folds.
Villan UTG+1 ($200) raises to $10.
All folds.
Hero BTN ($210) calls $10 with QQ.
SB folds.
BB (covers Hero and Villan) calls $10.

I didn't 3-bet because SB is huge fish and I wanted him in the hand. I don't think he comes along for $30 3-bet. Instead he folds and tight BB calls.

Flop ($30)
985
BB checks. Villan bets $20. Hero calls $20. BB folds.

With no reads, I put villan on 99+(either with or without a club), or any A or K hand.

Turn ($70)
9858

Villan checks. Hero bets $40. Villan thinks for about 30 seconds, asks how much I have remaining, then calls.

River ($150)
98585

Villan thinks for 15 seconds, bets $35. What the hell is he betting $35 with? Does he do this as a bet/fold with AA/KK? If he had 99/88 he would just shove river. I can't see a flush doing this.

What is Hero's play here? Is it just a call? Are we shoving for value/as a bluff?

Thoughts on all aspects of the hand are appreciated.

I'll probably bet more on turn with intent to shove river.

As played, I am raising what looks like a blocking bet. $95 left to raise, $225 in pot, easy shove.

Looks like a blocker bet, but I have seem enough people try ridiculously small bluffs not to reject busted draw or call when their blocker is raised. Still could be a small value with a house. I would just call, at least now you get to see his hand and get a read on the guy.

No flop raise?

So you didn't want to 3-bet so the small blind comes in? Little confused on why you might want to go four handed into a flop with queens.....bb is going to call most of the time if small blind calls anyways, raise pre than bet bet bet

It's called adjusting to maximize potential profit.

I would take the same line to keep SB in hand as well.

Are you bluffing? Seems hard to get called on the river by a range we have >50% equity against (this is in reference to both your bet turn shove river line and your raise river line)

Raising and calling have to be very close here, as I think he has tt,jj as often as aa,kk. Random bluff stabs fold anyways, I think I just call since villains may err to checking value hands that you beat, like smaller overpairs. Since he's an unknown so far I really want to see what he shows down with. If he checked river I'd make a larger bet to rep busted draws, and expect calls by worse hands.

Calling pre is fine especially if you plan to 3b/fold vs unknown. I want to see how he plays with initiative while we are far underrepped. Extra incentive to call if we feel three way with the megafish is more likely than 4way or HU.

My read on BB was a tight image, I expected him to fold. So I did not mind going 3-way to the flop on the BTN if it meant getting the SB fish in the hand as well.

Hard to say how villain might perceive the line given the limited amount of info, but I am not doing more than the stack-a-donk.

Was a bit confused, but are you saying greater > 50% or < less than 50%?

Seems like you might mean to say the latter.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Call.

TT, JJ, 9x, and busted clubs all could be betting here.

Flush is c/c or c/f. 8s and 5s unlikely in their UTG+1 raising range.

Raising only gets called by better.

I am basically stacking off QQ against an unknown at 100bb without more info in similar spot.

Huh? You provided a range that we absolutely crush and you want to just call?

So, this is just a rule? You have an over pair, so if he doesn't make you put 100bb in, you gonna do it your self?

I can see you wanted to do this as a bluff. But, I think QQ has too much value against this line to turn into a bluff.

he provided a range before we raise, not after.

I don't get your argument here. It's not a rule or anything as such, but given the action so far, shoving seems standard.

River is < than a 1/2 PSB raise if we shove, and we are certainly above 50% equity at this point.

How are we bluffing? I guess you did mean to say that we are behind his range on river.

So villain is never calling with less than QQ, is that the argument here?

No...I'm actually really confused here. You seem to not realize that our equity against his betting range doesn't matter when considering raising.

We are comparing calling versus raising. Not raising in isolation. Ie, when we raise he has to call with hands we beat >50% of the time (or fold better) to make raising better than calling.

You either seem to be think he b/c his entire range, or you don't understand the concept that they have to call > 50% with hands we beat. The former I disagree with.

not necessarily, but is it >50%? There are a lot of hands that are scared by that board that beat us, and if he's b/c worse, than he's b/c all those better hands too. Do we have >50% against that range? We might not even have >50% against his river bet range.

Although a flush seems unlikely, he could have been scared to jam turn cause of the paired board. He could be "pot controlling" AA/KK. So, we need him to call with JJ/TT plus other hand combo's to make up for when he does have the flush, or 99, 88, or 55 that is trapping.

We are exactly 50/50 if we assign his range to TT+.

Of course I believe his two ranges are different, but I still don't see how this isn't a raise.

Do you think his calling range is > us?

I think we are over repping our hand that's for sure. How's he going to respond? I dunno, I think calling is clearly very +EV....and I think raising is very thin. So, I just don't get how you say it's standard with such confidence. I think it has more merit as a bluff than a value raise.

I guess the disagreement is how thin we should raise this river.

I didn't mean to sound like this was a clear raise, but against most unknowns, I don't mind such raise on river.

As played, jam.

Mistake 1) You didn't reraise to 30$ preflop
Mistake 2) You didn't raise the flop

any reasoning behind all three suggestions?