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05-20-2015 , 02:37 PM

day'n'night

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,526

Hand 2
Eff stack 500

Preflop(3) Hero is in MP with Q

Utg raises to 8, Hero 3bets to 25. Utg 4 bets to 75

UTG is a good reg, seen him play a hand that shows that he is rather a thinking player. So far has been playing TAG. I on the other hand have a slightly aggro image, however this is the first time UTG sees me 3 bet and my first 3bet in a while. Thoughts on laying it down here?

Flop(153): A

Utg bets 110, hero calls

I think we have to call here, thoughts?

Turn(373): 2

Check check

River(373): 10

Utg bets 125

Easy fold on the river. I would like to have your thoughts on previous streets.

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05-20-2015 , 02:59 PM

The Rumor

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 9,559

No, we don't have to call the flop. What do you think his 4 bet range is?

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05-20-2015 , 03:08 PM

DeathCabForTootie

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Originally Posted by The Rumor

No, we don't have to call the flop. What do you think his 4 bet range is?

Exactly. We don't even have the NFD on the flop.

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05-20-2015 , 06:11 PM

sungar78

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,205

Vil had AA whole time. I don't think the flop call is mandatory here without NFD
What happens when the turn is the Jh, and he decides to put another pot sized bet in at some point in the hand?
Preflop I can't help myself.
3 cards is a lot
425 left in the stacks is a lot

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05-20-2015 , 07:42 PM

agnostia

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,289

i don't think folding to the 4 bet is out of the question. just knowing what a 4 bet means at this level from anyone other than a maniac. i don't see most reasonable players 4 betting AKs so i think we can safely fold and not feel bad about it.

as played, we don't even have the NFD. folding seems fine.

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05-20-2015 , 09:10 PM

RAHZero

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Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,706

Fold to the 4-bet PF. Doubt a good player is opening UTG and then 4-betting you without KK+ unless you have a lot of history.

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05-20-2015 , 09:55 PM

sb77

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 568

i think when he 4! you're basically set mining with QQ. Nobody I've seen whose competent puts £75 in pf utg with less than KK, (maybe AK sometimes)

the flop hits him and even if you hit the flush it might be no good.

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06-22-2015 , 04:36 PM

AM_

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 154

I had Kk with a heart.

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