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01-13-2012 , 06:12 PM
Loose passive $1/2 table. I was playing TAG earlier in the session but my image has turned nitty due to folding everything. I am visibility frustrated after losing 2 big pots in the past hour. I have $250

Villain is sitting to my immediate right, and he is on the BB in his hand. He is a live cash pro, I think he suspects I am a pro as well (asking what I do for a living etc) I have seen villain 3b squeeze IP with AQs and JJ. Villain covers

sb is a korean fish who doesn't speak english and has a PFR of 50%+

Hero is UTG with QcQd and raises to $15, sb calls, villain snap 3bets to $45, hero tanks and calls, sb folds.

Villain checks in the dark(?)

Flop ($100) : 10c 8c 4d

Hero bets $47, villain reluctantly announces all-in. It an additional $165 for me to call. Hero ?
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01-14-2012 , 12:18 AM
Playing 1/2 ain't much of a living.

Why are you betting the on the flop? His range is mainly hands that beat you if he calls. Committing nearly 40% of your stack, then folding with an OP is bad. I'd fold because you're beat too often, but would probably call to punish myself for playing this hand that bad.
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01-14-2012 , 12:53 AM
Agree that you need to check this flop everytime

Fold to the raise. If its not JJ you are probably crushed.
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01-14-2012 , 01:22 AM
Once you bet this flop you are going to have to be ready to stack off, otherwise you shouldn't bet this, and that's why checking is your only option here.
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01-14-2012 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by venice10
I'd fold because you're beat too often, but would probably call to punish myself for playing this hand that bad.
This is what happened.

The check in the dark threw me off and I went into "OMG he has AK, I betz!!" mode.
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01-14-2012 , 06:34 AM
This is a tough spot. YOu mentioned you've seen him squeeze with AQ and JJ, however, I would hazard a guess that he squeezed in bloated pots in which weakness was shown.

That is not necessarily the same as 3betting a dry pot in which you raised $15 and he made it $45...

QQ sucks because it is the perfect Reverse Implied Odds hand, too high in value to fold, not high enough to call...

so what the hell do you do?

Well, this is where higher level thinking comes into play. You said

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I was playing TAG earlier in the session but my image has turned nitty due to folding everything
So, if your image is nitty then Villain has to put you on AK, JJ-AA as a minimum So if he is 3-betting you, his range is KK, AA, AK.

QQ sucks vs this range. So you can actually fold pre.

I know, sucks right.

Now, if your image was different and V could give you a wide range of hands, then absolutely we can go to war with QQ (and i'm all for going to war ) Similarly, if V was aggro, a donk, or a maniac, then again, we can go to war.

But based on what you've said, your read, and your perceived image, this is a fold. A tough fold, but a fold nonetheless.

As played, once you bet 40% of your stack, you can't fold.
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