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1/2 NL TPMK vs overbet on the flop 1/2 NL TPMK vs overbet on the flop

01-03-2011 , 09:05 PM
New Years day Hero is in CO with A9o w/ $400 stack
Villain is MP2 with ~$400 no reads other than the way he looks physically

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, MP1 limps, Villain limps, HIJ limps, I limp because the BTN is a lagtard that literally raised/called every bet I made on another table, BTN surprisingly folds probably because I didn't raise and he was targeting me specifically earlier in the night, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop comes AxJ6 (Pot $14)
Check to villain who bets $25, Hero???

This was my 3rd hand of the table (I doubled up first hand) and no real reads on villain. However I know this may sound racist but he's a late 20s/early 30s slightly overweight mexican in a plaid shirt which in my experience rules out any two pair/set combos. Also I don't think he realizes what an overbet is and just looks at the $$$ amount.
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01-03-2011 , 09:37 PM
I would fold pre-flop. As played, assuming everyone else folded, I think I would also fold.
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01-03-2011 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristopherFlowers
I would fold pre-flop. As played, assuming everyone else folded, I think I would also fold.
+1
Stop playing Ace-rag in bad situations. And almost any situation is a bad situation to play Ace-rag (unless soooted).
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01-03-2011 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by frizzled
New Years day Hero is in CO with A9o w/ $400 stack
Villain is MP2 with ~$400 no reads other than the way he looks physically

UTG limps, UTG+1 limps, MP1 limps, Villain limps, HIJ limps, I limp because the BTN is a lagtard that literally raised/called every bet I made on another table, BTN surprisingly folds probably because I didn't raise and he was targeting me specifically earlier in the night, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop comes AxJ6 (Pot $14)
Check to villain who bets $25, Hero???

This was my 3rd hand of the table (I doubled up first hand) and no real reads on villain. However I know this may sound racist but he's a late 20s/early 30s slightly overweight mexican in a plaid shirt which in my experience rules out any two pair/set combos. Also I don't think he realizes what an overbet is and just looks at the $$$ amount.
I really don't understand why you even ask this question here. I have nothing aganst you my friend but in an un-raised limped pot with eight villains even if you flop TPTK with AK on that flop is never good. Forget about A9o. On this flop you need minimum AK and you've got to play that hand fast on the flop to make sure you get the money in the middle before the third hits the board that will kill your action.

Fold your A9o on this flop because you've got no hand. When you play Ace+rag and flop an Ace you will NEVER know if your Ace is any good. I mean seriously, You never know for sure if your Ace is any good and you've got no betting power. When all the villains limp and you limp with Ace+rag the oly flop good for you is A,A,X or XXA where X is your rag. There is no flop that fits an Ace+rag. Unless your Ace+rag is suited in a volume pot against big stacks and you pair the rag and draw to the nuts. So you have a draw to the nut flush plus a pair. Dump that A9o full of sh*t brown toilet paper pre-flop and get new cards on the next deal.

Can you see the difference between AK and A9o on that flop AxJ6? Like day and night. You will have so much betting power that you could go AI and don't care from that point on. Make a new goal for yourself on this New Year of 2011 to NEVER play Ace+rag off suited.

Che,

Last edited by always_tilting; 01-03-2011 at 10:30 PM.
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01-04-2011 , 04:21 PM
I suck postflop with weak unsuited Aces, so I just fold preflop (unless I think a raise could get this HU in position, which at my table it never would).

As played, flop is an easy fold, imo. Villain is betting into a lotta people, plus it's a big overbet, it just ain't worth calling in a limped pot.

Gwaitingforhuge+EVsituations,everythingelseisjustw indowdressing,imoG
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01-06-2011 , 05:54 AM
Well I thought the correct answer would be to fold on the flop (I called ofc), but I was surprised to hear everyone saying to fold preflop. This was the first time in my life that I played poker live where the table avg was more than 100bb and I thought two pair/trips possibility were enough to warrant a limp here? Or do I have to be even deeper to bank on that?
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01-06-2011 , 09:16 AM
if you were actually expecting the button to raise then why did you limp in? If the button did raise to lets say 15 and everyone called, would you have called too?

I would fold the flop as it's an overbet into 7 people, and after HIJ folds, if you call there's 4 more people to act behind you.

Just a hard hand to play multiway really. Only flop I would actually like is something close to A9(2-9), and 99x, and perhaps a monotone board giving you a nut flush draw. even then you wont be getting much action.
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01-06-2011 , 10:56 AM
I saw thread title and thought I'd pop in just to say fold. I read OP and of course it's a fold.
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