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10-04-2010 , 04:48 PM
Hero: 240
Villain 1 and 2 have right around 200

button raises to 6 (very small raise pf in this game and not standard to button at all probably just a buffer) after 4 limps.
Hero: calls from the bb with K Q os.
Villain 1: calls from utg
Villain 2: calls from utg+1
utg+2: calls
mp1:calls

Flop Kj3
Hero:?

Whats the move here?
Do you prefer to check or donk bet for maybe 1/2-2/3 pot or something?

by no means do i believe the button raised to 6 very strong. Villain 1 is tag most of the time and Villain 2 is very loose. utg+2 is tight passive and mp1 is tight and somewhat aggressive.
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10-04-2010 , 04:51 PM
It really depends if he cbet normallys.

Given his preflop sizing I'd treat it more like a limped pot and bet out about pot.
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10-04-2010 , 05:12 PM
donk/fold flop unless villain often raises donk bets
if there are callers then proceed with caution on turn/river

to be honest playing oop is tough even with tpgk
if callers are on the looser side barrel any safe turn for protection/value
if callers are on the tighter side just check for pot control on turn
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10-04-2010 , 05:46 PM
I'm not exactly thrilled about playing KQo OOP vs 5 opponents (which is what is going to happen thanks to this small preflop raise), but I call along too since the price is so small (compared to our stack). Another option might be to 3bet it and take the pot down preflop, but the problem with this is a normal 3bet in this situation ain't that far removed from a regular raise, one that has a good chance of being called due to so many limpers.

As for flop, since it's so drawy and against multiple opponents I probably make a largish (say 3/4 pot) bet and am basically done with the hand vs any aggression. If just called, I probably check the turn (calling reasonable bets on blanks). If villains check turn back I probably make a smallish value bet on a blank river (1/3 - 1/2 pot).

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10-04-2010 , 09:16 PM
I bet out like 20-25 here. Enough to announce you have a hand, but not enough where you get attached. With typical passive players you will not get raised except by a hand you are behind. You don't want to give any free cards on the flop, and this is not the type of hand I would want to check raise. I think you will be ahead most of the time here, but can out think yourself if you give someone else the lead in the hand and end up folding to pressure on multiple streets. Betting out saves you some guess work.
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10-04-2010 , 09:29 PM
id lead out 20$, however if any callers i would definitely bet the turn too given its safe.
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10-05-2010 , 02:51 AM
Ok so...

Hero: leads out for 21
villain 1: raises to 65
villain 2: calls rather quickly
folds to hero: thinks for a minute and folds. I figured this was a standard fold. Does anyone think it isn't a standard fold? why?

Villain 1 hit the nut flush on the turn and they got it all in. Villain 2 boated up his set of 3s on the river.
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10-05-2010 , 03:08 AM
yes it's a standard fold on the flop
villain1 shows he has something good
villain2 overcalls show he has something good as well or better
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