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08-05-2017 , 09:26 PM
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RockfordVic
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Hero (~180) UTG+2 KsKc - 21 YO sat down 15 minutes prior to hand
UTG calls blind
fold
Hero raises to 12
fold
fold
Villain call (~240)
Button calls
SB folds
BB folds
UTG calls
Flop: Qc10s9s
UTG check
Hero bets 25
villain calls
Fold Fold fold
Turn: Jh
hero checks
villain bets 40

Hero?????
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08-05-2017 , 10:16 PM
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Scott7x
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First of all, I would make it atleast 15-20 preflop depending on how the table is playing.

Flop is good.

On the turn i would just keep betting to charge his draws. Since you played it this way I would just check call turn and check call river to keep his bluffs in. Cant really get much value by check raising now as i doubt 2 pair or the bottom end of the straight would continue. And you heavily block him having a straight so i would make it look like i had a tough decision on the turn, which might make him think he can easily double barrel and win this pot since he wont put you on a king.
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08-05-2017 , 11:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockfordVic
UTG calls blind
^^^Epic fail.

Okay, back to the hand. As played, call turn and call most rivers.

We also have the Ks, which means that V can't be free-rolling us with KsXs.
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08-06-2017 , 12:16 AM
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Spoiler:
I called on the turn and 6s comes on river. I check he shoves and I call. He turns over Qs8s. My immediate reaction was that I should have shoved on the turn but with a bottom straight and the flush draw he probably would have called.
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08-06-2017 , 06:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RockfordVic
Spoiler:
I called on the turn and 6s comes on river. I check he shoves and I call. He turns over Qs8s. My immediate reaction was that I should have shoved on the turn but with a bottom straight and the flush draw he probably would have called.
He didn't put you on a king though, likely 2p+, the river was obvious, did u tank for awhile before making that call.

If u can make that river fold, you are already better than world class player given the price.

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08-06-2017 , 10:23 AM
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Easy shove. Villian has 8 outs to scoop and 2 kings to chop and only getting 2:1 odds to call your jam. He will probably call it off anyway since he was bad enough to bet the turn. A smarter player would have probably checked back the turn. Either way make him committ the big mistake in the hand. By you check calling he can play the river perfectly in position.
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08-07-2017 , 12:04 AM
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Don't like Villains plays.
As played I would shove turn. Don't know how good he is tho. My impression is that the only hand we are really doing not well against is the AK.

Fully charge all the draws. His range is IMO capped, all the stronger hands like two pairs, sets straight will probably raise flop. He has a lot of AXss type hands, one pair hands that might improved that will call flop and might bet turn. I like to check back a high frequency if not my entire range on the turn in V position.
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08-07-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Not sure why Hero is checking this turn. The turn is value city and this is the perfect turn to exploit Villain considering his likely flop calling range is loving this card.

I would bet large on the turn (probably $80 or more)..... Not for protection or fold equity but for pure value. We want calls and a check/raise is a terrible plan to extract value from weaker holdings. Also, considering 1/3 of the deck will kill your river action you want to get the max value now while you can.
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