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05-02-2015 , 06:10 PM

ThrirtyThree

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 278

V1(183,SB): Fish. Play almost every hand unless there is a big raise.
V2(600,BB): Regular, Very loose preflop. Okay postflop.
Her0($450): Pretty tight image

History Hand:
V1 raises to 12, V2 calls, 2 callers,

Flop: 459r. V1 bets 40, only V2 calls.
Turn:2. V1 bets 75, V2 calls
River:blank. V1 all in about $200. V2 instant calls and show 52, V1 has JJ

On the hand:
One limper, Hero raises to $15 with 2 red KK. V1 calls. V2 calls

Flop($60): 4c7d9c

V1 checks, V2 checks, hero bets 30. V1 raises to $90. V2 calls. Hero??

Spoiler:

Last edited by ThrirtyThree; 05-02-2015 at 06:39 PM.

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05-02-2015 , 06:25 PM

Tiltbox5000

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 150

What is our stack? If we started the hand at 300 or less, we should have shoved over on the reraise on flop, or folded if we are sure v2 has better. I am at minimum putting V1s stack all in on the flop once he raises us.

As is I still need to know our remaining chips to know what to do. If we cover V2 just call, if we have less than 250 behind, shove.

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05-02-2015 , 08:03 PM

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,149

Our stack is in the OP. We have $450.

Bleh! I hate this spot. How is pot $60 OTF? Another V call that you didn't mention?

If pot really is $60, $30 bet is way too small OTF. If it is actually $45, I guess the sizing is OK.

Unless fish is c/r happy, I fold flop the second time around. Chances that they both have draws is slim.

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05-02-2015 , 08:23 PM

matzah_ball

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Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,788

Against this lineup, I'm just getting it in on the flop.

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05-02-2015 , 09:02 PM

Tiltbox5000

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 150

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Originally Posted by Garick

See how my post is before the bottom of the OP where it indicates what time it was edited? Yeah.

With that stack we should 100 percent be shoving over on the flop or folding the flop. There are a fair number of pairs that can reriase us on the flop, not to mention 9s, or 108 combos. Very few ways for a raised pot like this to have two pair, so we are mostly worried about sets. Unless the players are incredibly tight, Cbet on the flop is perfect, when raised with a caller, shove.

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05-02-2015 , 11:09 PM

iopq

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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,347

I would strongly consider folding. Most of the time someone has a stronger hand than you, most likely two pair. Maybe one has a draw and the other has a set. You're not even happy to be up against a combo draw either. Best case scenario is both of them have flush draws.

Worst case scenario V2 puts us all in with a set in which case we're really screwed (225BB on overpair with no equity).

As played, we can't fold the that particular turn, but we can fold river to any further action. Just hope V2 has a draw and checks it down (no side pot, no reason to bluff)

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