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Hero (60 ish) has been at table ~12 hands and called a 3x raise from the BB with 66 and folded to a C-bet when 3 overs flopped and raised 3 limpers to 12 from the button with AQo. V1 in this hand called from the blinds and pot donked a K hi flop. Has 140bbs

V1 (30 ish)has played aggressively maybe winning 4 or so small pots with C-bets. He showed down 99 after C-betting a board with 1 over. I'm assuming that was to indicate he had hands the other 3 times he C-bet for the win Has 90 bbs

V2 (50 ish) has limped a few hands and done nothing out of the ordinary. Has 120 bbs

Hero UTG with 76ss makes it $5 to go. V1 in MP1 calls as does V2 on the button. All others fold.

Flop = Th 9h 8x

Hero bets $15. V1 and Button both call without much thought.

Turn = brick 4x

Hero bets $40. V1 instacalls and V2 thinks about 15 seconds and makes it $120 to go.

Hero ???

Not sure about your turn dilemma....

But sure that you should fold 67s pre flop UTG with stacks not all that deep.

60 yr olds on 2+2 trying to improve I love it! That is awesome man good for you.

You need to be folding 67s from EP. I know it sucks, its such an awesome pretty looking hand and we want to see a flop but we must fold. Calling or raising this is a leak which will end up putting you in tough spots out of position and likely cause you to compound your preflop mistake and bleed more $$$ on later streets! This is not good.

V's line is terrible he should never have QJ here but so often terrible players slow play the nuts like this multiway on soaking wet boards. Unless I know he is an uber comfirmed nit who only nut peddles I'm shoving the turn vs this line from him.

If he plays QJ like this he is likely to play 88, 99, TT, T9, and maybe T8 or 89 the same way. Shoving is fine

I'd say fold. V2 isn't raising you on that turn without the straight.

Indifferent spot here ... could go either way. I probably would c/r Flop with bottom straight and a flush draw out there some of the time. You couldve over-bet the Flop too to try and get stacks in there quicker. It also gives you some better information if they both still call.

I think the Turn is a definite c/r spot. With you in EP it looks like you may have given up on the hand and then you wack them over the head with the c/r ... again to get closer to stacks. I really dont mind this checking through either, even with all the scare cards that can come out. If you get 3-bet/shoved on here then it's easier to fold.

Its certainly unclear how they view your range here but you can already be beat by a bunch (set, strt) or get beat on the River by a bunch also with no way to improve your hand. I can fold here ...

Yes, you want to get paid when you play 'extremely' marginal hands, but it has to be a 'gin' type Flop and although this looks like one, its not. GL

In whatever you chose to do one should always try to get better. I've trained racehorses for > 40 years and I'd like to think I'm better today than when I was 50. Or as Bill Parcells once told his players, "You are either getting better or getting worse!" Get better or go the way of the dodo bird.

I sort of fundamentally disagree but am open to being convinced otherwise.

As a guy who looks like an old nit, generally, players assume I'm raising a very, very tight range utg. I almost never get three bet and when I do, I can assume the 3 bettor has QQ+ and I have the perfect hand to play a big pot with if I flop large. If not, they are easy to pitch.They can never put me on a middle sc so when I flop big (rare for sure) my hand is totally disguised.

When I whiff the flop since I had the initiative raising from utg, I can rep a big pp, or AK/AQ. It gives credibility to a wide range of flops for c-betting.

I was confused when neither raised my flop bet making me believe they were both drawing with hearts , JJ, 77. I would have thought the possible sets and 2 pr hands would have bet to deny the price to draw to straights or flushes and QJ would raise enough to make it incorrect for hearts to draw. Plus the notion that a heart turn would kill QJ's action even if neither other player had hearts.

When the turn bricked I had the 3rd nuts (QJ and J7) but for all intents and purposes, the 2nd nuts as I couldn't imagine a 3 gapper calling an utg raise.

When the button re popped me, his story didn't make sense to me. I shoved the virtual 2nd nuts and , of course button had QJ

My question was although QJ was always part of his range do you fold the second nuts when V's story doesn't make sense to you? Of course you have to weigh that against the fact 50 year olds seldom re-pop aggression with middling holdings.

Unless the rest of the table is 200bb+ deep, or is super fit/fold post, you need to be folding pre.

As played, fold. That sizing is so ridiculously nutted already. If he was going to semibluff, he'd do so on the flop. If he was peeling looking to see a safe card with top 2 or a set or something, he'd just jam the turn for fear of a bad river. (This is assuming he actually did leave himself like 50bb left)

This is QJ really, really frequently.

Fold pre. 76s really isn't a good hand to play oop. It's very weak. You will be oop. It's pretty, but it has no high card value and it makes non-nut strong hands. The reality is, if we're raising a hand like 76s from UTG, we're doing it infrequently and with the goal of varying our play and providing some balance to our UTG range. There's no need to vary your play in this 1/2 game.

If you raise pre, $5 is very small.

As played, I'm definitely not folding after I flop the straight on this board and with these stacks. Get it in on the turn.

Called it.

As EVERYONE else has said, fold pre. It is SOOO rare to smash the flop with this sort of hand (you didn't really smash flop, btw), it just becomes trouble oop.

Also, $5 preflop raise from utg just screams "pot sweetener in case I hit with my small pocket pair/middling suited connectors."

However, you DID avoid one mistake that players often make, which is failing to commit when they get the flop they want with cards like suited connectors.

I dont find V2s actions as that strange. You said yourself that you are viewed more like OMC or nit so is he really worried about a flush draw from you? Based on that he is certainly not expecting you to show up with 67 either!!

It is much easier to get flush draws to fold out on the Turn than Flop AND you have already bet for him on the Flop so why would he want to scare away customers by raising? He can react to the Turn IP and he felt it was time for the hammer after you bet again and got called. His bet really isnt big enough but with his stack size he needed to leave a bit more behind for the River bet ... if another save card comes out.

I'm sure he was pleased that he was good on Turn and didnt have to fade the River.

Thats why with this type of vulnerable holding I wouldve opted for the c/r on the Flop .. not that it wouldve changed this hand, but in the long run you will be able to get away from more Turn cards if you are called. GL