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03-29-2018 , 09:28 PM

tomdemaine

Just tries harder

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,065

Hero and villain both have about 250. Villian is standard loose passive fish not crazy but limps with semi garbage and rarely folds it after a raise. Don't know much about his post flop tendencies. Hero hasn't shown down a hand yet villian has zero clue of my image.

Hero UTG 9

Raise to 8

Villian UTG+1 Calls

2 other calls

Flop 9

Hero bets 20

Villain calls

2 folds

Turn Q

Hero bets 50

Villain Calls

River K

Hero?

*Spoiler for what I did, not the result*

Spoiler:

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03-29-2018 , 10:22 PM

PFunkaliscious

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bet 80 on the turn. JT got there, but the board is far too wet to keep bloating the pot with poor sizing bets.

as played, check/call up to 75. fold over 75

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03-30-2018 , 09:26 AM

Koss

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Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7,099

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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious

bet 80 on the turn. JT got there, but the board is far too wet to keep bloating the pot with poor sizing bets.

as played, check/call up to 75. fold over 75

I dont think 50 into 70 is a bad bet. Hearts shouldnt be a huge part of his range here, and he only has 7 clean ones.

On the river the pot is 170 and you have 170 behind? I probably bet 80 and hope for a crying call from 8x or QJ/QT. I expect a lot of folds though. If he did hit JT hopefully the hearts scare him away from shoving. If he does shove the river its gross but I think I fold.

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03-30-2018 , 09:31 AM

SwolyswoND

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,976

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Originally Posted by Koss

+1. Turn sizing is fine, and c/c river seems bad because I don't know what bluffs V has left to shove, but he can call with some worse hands that he would check back with.

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03-30-2018 , 09:56 AM

trucdouf

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,216

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Originally Posted by Koss

This.

Nothing else to add, I would consider check/calling river but I'm fine with betting as well. If we bet I find it tough to fold.

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03-30-2018 , 09:23 PM

Garick

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,524

Grunch: Wouldn't spoiler what you did either. It biases advice. Few can resist clicking before they comment.

Hand is WP to river. Pot is about $165 (depending on rake) and you have just over that behind. Shove it in and hope he hit 2p to call with, imo.

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03-30-2018 , 09:27 PM

Garick

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,524

Post grunch. A lot of MUBS here. Only TJ and a BDFD hit. I could see a half pot river if we were deep enough to b/f, but given stack sizes, I prefer a shove as there's a lot he ca call with, and if he had some weird holding like 6h7h, nh.

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03-30-2018 , 09:40 PM

VegasBaby

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 41

Bet 75 on river and fold to a raise imo

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04-01-2018 , 09:28 PM

SummerPokerPlayer

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Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 29

Interesting He doesn't reach the river with air other than 67 -- his other draws made it. He will, however, have a lot of 1 pairs -- hands that turned into pairs with combo draws on the turn. Seems like you probably can't get value from these hands, but he also doesn't have a lot of bluffs when he bets. If he's good, he'll be turning some of his pair+draw hands into bluffs here, but I don't think most 1-2 players do that. So I'm probably making an exploitative fold here. Reminder that you should be checking back your flushes on this runout as well, for balance.

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04-01-2018 , 09:35 PM

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Garick

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Not sure if trolling, but saying to check back flushes on non-paired boards for balance is not only awful, it also doesn't go with the exploitative advice in the same post. SPP, please read our posting guidelines.

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04-01-2018 , 09:45 PM

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WereBeer

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,700

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Originally Posted by SummerPokerPlayer

Reminder that you should be checking back your flushes on this runout as well, for balance.

xb the river with the effective or actual nuts is not what balance is, it's what you do if you hate money.

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04-02-2018 , 11:27 AM

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shorn7

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,495

I shove river for value. Hate the check, but AP call.

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