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03-06-2022 , 05:54 PM

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guppyfrying

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I think the right answer is "bet the most you think V will call". If you think V is going to call an all-in with big Qx/FD/OESD, then go all in. If you think V is on the tighter more conservative side, you might want to size down. The most important thing is that we want V to call or raise, and we don't want V to fold.

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03-07-2022 , 01:00 PM

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Javanewt

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~$60 in the pot at an action table, H bets $20 into five players and gets only one caller? Not very actiony, or they are calling with anything pre and giving up easily!

I get a small bet if you expect a raise (although I think $20 was too small). Sorry it didn't happen, but if he's going to raise, this is a hand with which to do it. I wouldn't count on his raising much in the future. Sorry he binked.

Would you have bet $20 w/ AA?

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03-07-2022 , 03:23 PM

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Amanaplan

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Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,628

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Originally Posted by TopGun in VA

Thanks for elaborating...your thought process makes sense to me. Checking could "induce" a bet from top pair-type hands, as it may appear that I'm giving up. Draws may also seize the initiative and bet. I'll have to build this line into my game occasionally.

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I ended up choosing to bet 60, which I felt top pair hands would call, and most draws would call, while arguably not getting the right price.

V ended up having T9hh for the combo draw, and 12 outs going to the river, including the 6h which came. The result is what it is, and I'm not at all worried about it. My main purpose for posting was to examine my flop betting size, betting smallish on the flop as the preflop aggressor when flopping huge in a multiway pot. I appreciate everyone's responses. I believe there's not really 'one right answer' so appreciate seeing how different players think about the situation.

In this particular case, betting anywhere between 20-50 likely doesn't change the outcome, unless V folds if I really bomb the turn after sizing up on the flop. And this outcome doesn't maximize my EV, even though I take the pot down. As played, V's actions make perfect sense (at least to me).

60 is cool. What was the river action? I like this kind of hand bc it hits on a concept that I think many low limit players do not integrate into strategy very well. The concept that you have to stack off, bet huge with sets and the times you lose you just chalk it up to a bad beat and tell a story to oneself about it.

Like, did you got 20/60/ckc a shove? 20/60/shove?

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03-07-2022 , 04:54 PM

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TopGun in VA

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 565

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Originally Posted by Amanaplan

I checked the river. He took a long time, and bet 55, leaving ~125 back. I was prepared to fold to a shove, which I expected him to do with all made flushes. I ended up calling, figuring I only had to be good 1 in 6 times for a break-even call (55 to win 275). Bart Hansen/Crush Live Poker teaches to bet/fold in most similar river spots, but given stack depth, I didn't think there was many sizings I could choose that made sense for that line.

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