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1-2 NL Facing River Shove with 2nd Pair 1-2 NL Facing River Shove with 2nd Pair

08-06-2018 , 05:22 PM
Been at the table for about an hour and have a solid image, only played a few hands, no big pots. Effective stacks are about $250. Villain has played a lot of pots so far, nothing huge, but has shown he can bluff raise some flops and turns by putting in small raises in position. Has shown down some hands like 93s, 64os. Clearly doesn't like to fold when he has any part of the board - any pair, gut shot, etc. But I have no history with him, have only been playing for about an hour, and he hasn't moved all in any point so far.

A weak passive player limps in. I'm two off the button and raise to $10 with ATd. Button calls, Villain calls in BB, and limper calls. Pot is $40.

Flop comes down Th 4s 3c. Limper checks to me, I bet $20. Button folds, Villain pretty quickly calls and limper folder. Pot is $80.

Turn makes the board Th 4s 3c Kc. Villain checks, I bet $40 and he pretty quickly calls. Pot is $160.

River makes the board Th 4s 3c Kc 3d. Villain quickly goes all in for his last $186. Pot is $346 and it's $186 to me. Getting about 1.8 to 1 I need to be good here about 35% of the time.

Thoughts on play of the entirety of the hand, bet sizes, etc., villains range on river, etc. all are appreciated!!
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08-06-2018 , 08:48 PM
Just check back the turn. It's difficult to see what you're getting value from. If villain has a worse T, the K is a pretty scary card for him, he can't hope you have AK anymore. In any case you're clearly not getting two more streets, so there's no hurry to go for your one street of value, you can try for it OTR.

As played, fold the river. At LLSNL, a sudden and unexpected large bet on later streets is usually not kidding around. Here there are very few bluffs villain could have, like perhaps 56s, that's about it. Certainly possible he's like turning A4 into a bluff or something but I don't think you have enough information to do anything but make the standard play, which is not to pay off these type of bets.
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08-06-2018 , 10:57 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply! I understand what you are saying about getting two streets of value from a pair, but against someone who could be playing hands like 56, 57, 67, A2, A5, isn't there enough combinations in there to merit a turn bet?
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08-06-2018 , 11:46 PM
Most of those combos are likely to bet river if you check, the gutshots are also probably not calling, although with this guy who knows. Worth noting also, I know he's OOP but if he decides to try out this small-raise thing he does, you're kind of screwed.
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08-07-2018 , 12:09 AM
This is a fold on river ap. Ignore you pair of 10s here, as that is far below value range at this point, what is he double floating flop+turn with and then reraising all in here? Very few bluffs unless this player has the only straight draw. And you didnt seem to describe him as a maniac who would move in with any two cards since he hasn't moved in yet.

Check back turn, 2nd pair is too thin? An action player with high vpip will easily show up here with 34, k3, k4, naked k, and the enormous amount of other hands that beat you
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08-07-2018 , 01:29 AM
$25 otf, ranges are not that elastic for calling.

Ott dont mind the dbl barrel for value, but vs him i like checking slightly better esp since he bluff raises turns and flops

Otr just fold
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08-07-2018 , 07:07 AM
Solid feedback everyone, thanks for the time and replies!!
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