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01-07-2017 , 05:31 AM
There was a crazy guy at our table with about $500 stack who kept putting $25 blindly every hand. I'm on sb with AKo and $175. It got to me (only he was in the pot) and I made it $175 all in, his calling range was wide. And he calls $150. Flop K7K and turn is a Q. River was a blank. Should have I done what I've done? He sucked out on me before and I'm not sure if I was tilting. He had QQ.
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01-07-2017 , 05:32 AM
I like it. What can you really do you're less than 10 bb.
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01-07-2017 , 05:39 AM
Maybe flat pre to keep in BB if he's a spot too.

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01-07-2017 , 11:27 AM
Unless V is a total Degen, I'm not sure if his continuing range to an open shove pre might be flipping or ahead of us.

Call the 25 and take a flop with AK sounds too passive ESP when we are OOP. With $175 could we not 3bet to $75 and then either open shove any flop if called or call a 4bet shove pre?

If he calls and plays fit-or-fold postflop, we should make an immediate profit. When he whiffs 2/3 of the time and folds, we win the pot of $150 OTF. If we assume we lose when he calls, we lose an additional $100. In practice we'll be ahead after the board runs out.

If he folds to the 3bet and only continues to the flop with better we should still be making an automatic profi (but I didn't run the numbers)t. If he shoves over the top preflop with AQ+, TT+ we're a coinflip against that range and are already priced in to call.

Last edited by LittlePud; 01-07-2017 at 11:40 AM.
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01-07-2017 , 11:39 AM
I like non-allin with big PPs, not AK. Just let him take a huge flip that he's actually behind quite often.
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01-07-2017 , 11:45 AM
I think a more constructive exercise would be:

If UTG opens $25 blind with $175 effective stacks, what is our optimal $75 3bet / stack off range if he continues with, say, {AQ+, TT+} or {AJ+, 88+}? Does the 3bet / stack-off strategy allow us to make an immediate profit from all the time he folds due to playing ATC?
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01-07-2017 , 11:47 AM
You realize when a guy is blind opening to $25, you're basically playing a 7bb stack.


These types of Villain will call off anything that seems pretty. Basically anything suited, any ace, PP, most connected cards, etc.
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01-07-2017 , 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dochrohan
You realize when a guy is blind opening to $25, you're basically playing a 7bb stack.


These types of Villain will call off anything that seems pretty. Basically anything suited, any ace, PP, most connected cards, etc.
AK with a 7BB eff stack? GII pre!
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01-07-2017 , 12:52 PM
I'd probably raise to $65 pre and shove any flop
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01-07-2017 , 02:32 PM
No, he's never folding there and if I put $75 raise, he'd reraise and I wouldn't fold against his range (AT+)
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01-07-2017 , 03:14 PM
This is a guy who called overbet with 43o on a 32K board. $100 or so. He wouldn't fold.
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01-07-2017 , 03:24 PM
Shoving about 25% range from SB. Anything else is just foolish

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01-07-2017 , 03:30 PM
My standard is is to flat, on the assumption that he'll fold if I show strength by jamming. But if you think he'll come along, GII without hesitation.
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01-07-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
My standard is is to flat, on the assumption that he'll fold if I show strength by jamming. But if you think he'll come along, GII without hesitation.
Flatting is bad. Dude is blind opening $25. What's your plan on flops hit pair and him hit a piece?

Seems extremely bad
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01-07-2017 , 04:46 PM
In my pool, seems like all the bad overaggros will fold pre if you show aggression, especially if you haven't played back at them previously. OTF I can either lead/call almost anything and expect to be reasonably ahead, or lead and get action. I realize that's way more variance, but if we're talking about getting action from this kind of player, that's how I'd do it. If we're talking about taking the hand down now, I'd jam. But YMMV.
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01-07-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BiteMeFish
In my pool, seems like all the bad overaggros will fold pre if you show aggression, especially if you haven't played back at them previously. OTF I can either lead/call almost anything and expect to be reasonably ahead, or lead and get action. I realize that's way more variance, but if we're talking about getting action from this kind of player, that's how I'd do it. If we're talking about taking the hand down now, I'd jam. But YMMV.
It's not just higher variance, it's bad.

You risk this going 3 way vs hands we are ahead of and you're allowing it at a cheapish price.

I'd say you're making a huge mistake flatting in your player pool. At this stack size, it's a snap ship. Only reason to not snap ship is if we're really deep and second if we have a big PP, then we can get more value and safely ship almost all flops.

If guys are blind opening to $25 at your table almost every hand and they are not calling you wider than normally, I'd like to call bogus on that.

You can do 1 of 2 things, non all-in raise and ship all flops or ship now.
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01-07-2017 , 06:48 PM
I had a read on bb folding and really wouldn't like to be in a sandwich with AKo if he comes along. That kind of player is pretty lose, I'd be happy to take $25 if he had a complete garbage had or value from a lower A. I think it's unlikely he has AA/KK as I hold a blocker, against 55-QQ it's 50/50 and since he has a wide calling range (Ato+) and folds garbage, I conclude that I played fine)))) thank you all!
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