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1/2 NL, AA in tough spot facing a shove 1/2 NL, AA in tough spot facing a shove

01-16-2018 , 04:23 PM
Effective Stack $156.

Preflop: 2 limpers, I bump it up to $14 in the HJ with AhAs. SB calls, BB calls, other 2 limpers fold. ($46 in pot)

Flop: Qs6h5h
checks to me, I bet $20, SB calls, BB folds. ($86 in pot)

Turn: 7h
SB jams $122, I tank.

This is my first live action since turning 21 a few days ago and have not been studying the game as hard as I was, but I am now getting back into the swing of it. The V (SB) is a middle age white guy. On the flop when I bet 20 and he calls I put him on a range that consists of, Qh, 55-TT, QTso, QJso, KQso, AQso. I do believe if he had JJ+ he would have 3 bet me preflop. When he jams the turn he may have 89s, 9Ts along with the previous range. If I did not have the Ah I think this would be an easy fold. Not sure what the correct play was.
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01-16-2018 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShakeDaddy
Effective Stack $156.

Preflop: 2 limpers, I bump it up to $14 in the HJ with AhAs. SB calls, BB calls, other 2 limpers fold. ($46 in pot)

Flop: Qs6h5h
checks to me, I bet $20, SB calls, BB folds. ($86 in pot)

Turn: 7h
SB jams $122, I tank.

This is my first live action since turning 21 a few days ago and have not been studying the game as hard as I was, but I am now getting back into the swing of it. The V (SB) is a middle age white guy. On the flop when I bet 20 and he calls I put him on a range that consists of, Qh, 55-TT, QTso, QJso, KQso, AQso. I do believe if he had JJ+ he would have 3 bet me preflop. When he jams the turn he may have 89s, 9Ts along with the previous range. If I did not have the Ah I think this would be an easy fold. Not sure what the correct play was.
Too many hands you beat to fold to this weird line. Why would he jam the turn? He probably has some Qhx hand that's trying to get you to fold. Probably Qh8o.... Don't like your flop sizing btw.
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01-16-2018 , 05:10 PM
I know it, I dont like my flop sizing either, looking backq I size up bigger
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01-16-2018 , 05:13 PM
To me this is an easy fold if you didn't have the Ah. But that gives you enough outs that it probably makes it a tough call.

I think it's likely you're behind right now. KQ/AQ with one heart is probably the worst hand he's doing this with. You've got that hand crushed, but everything else is a made flush or a set or two pair.

I would call, but expect to lose.

Even still, you could fold and probably not be leaving much on the table.
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01-16-2018 , 05:15 PM
Happy birthday.

Its close. His line reads as something that picked up equity ott. Like KhQx or 78.

That said, 90% of the time when live villains tell you they have it, they have it. No matter how dumb their line is.

I'd fold, esp. bc of his sizing.
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01-16-2018 , 05:33 PM
Call.

After the action pre-flop and on the flop, villain mainly puts hero on AK.

He thinks his hand is probably best now but is scared of being drawn out on.
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01-16-2018 , 05:44 PM
I agree with Ava that it looks like a hand that improved on the turn. I don't think there is much 78 that takes this line; the heart should slow that down. 89 would be a loose call OTF, but could be trying to charge flush draws now that he made his straight. KhQx makes some sense, but this would be a very aggressive line. I think it is more likely that villain picked up a flush here. Most live villains aren't betting this big when a flush card hits with less than a flush when they are out of position. Without any table reads to the contrary, I fold here.
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01-16-2018 , 05:48 PM
With a range like:

QQ,77-55,AQs,KQs,98s,87s,76s,65s,AQo,KQo

You're a slight favorite and are getting about 2:1 odds on the river, so it's probably a call. Not sure I could actually make the call if I were sitting there though, as I tend to give a lot of credit to large bets like this.
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01-16-2018 , 05:52 PM
I think you're not subtracting rake for your pot sizes, changes pot odds and optimal bet sizing a bit. (Unless it's not raked, then carry on!)

As you and others already said, definitely bet more on the flop since it's multi-way and draw-heavy. I'd bet more like $30. If same action where he calls and shoves turn, now the pot is 106 (minus rake) facing a bet of 112 so not only did you charge V more on the flop but you also get better odds to look him up.

As played it's a tough spot... you haven't told us anything about your image. Are you up or down? Perceived as loose, tight, aggro, passive? All of that will affect how likely someone is to push you off a hand.

I agree with previous poster that having the Ah is enough to tilt this to a reluctant call. There are enough top pair, combo draw and 2-pair hands in V's range where you have pretty good equity... his range is actually wider due to your smaller flop bet. It's basically the scariest turn possible, so V might be using that against you if he thinks you will fold Qx or a big pair.
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01-16-2018 , 06:03 PM
I think you're not subtracting rake for your pot sizes, changes pot odds and optimal bet sizing a bit. (Unless it's not takes, then carry on!)

As you and others already said, definitely bet more on the flop since it's multi-way and draw-heavy. I'd bet more like $30. If same action where he calls and shoves turn, now the pot is 106 (minus rake) facing a bet of 112 so not only did you charge V more on the flop but you also get better odds to look him up.

As played it's a tough spot... you haven't told us anything about your image. Are you up or down? Perceived as loose, tight, aggro, passive? All of that will affect how likely someone is to push you off a hand.

I agree with previous poster that having the Ah is enough to tilt this to a reluctant call. There are enough combo draw and 2-pair hands in V's range where you have pretty good equity... his range is actually wider due to your smaller flop bet. It's basically the scariest turn possible, so V might be using that against you if he thinks you will fold Qx or a big pair.
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01-17-2018 , 12:33 AM
You need to size up on flop TSD.
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