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07-22-2018 , 02:08 PM
Local 1/2 game. Hero has 380$ and covers all Villains.
V1 250$ regular player. Seems like normal reg player. Don't have too many reads on this player but doesnt seem fishy.

V2 150$ another reg, doesnt get out of line or fishy, another normal rec player.

V3 passive fish. Plays a very wide range. Example would be 30mins prior, Hero 3bet V3 and he called with 75o.

Hand starts with SB straddling UTG. V2 and V3 limp 5$

I look down at A3dd in HJ. I raise to 25$

V1,V2 and V3 call.

Pot is 100$ and flop is 10d7d4c

V2 leads out 25$, V3 calls.

What does hero do here seeing how all 3 villains stacks are shallow and all 3 were under an SPR of 2.5 seeing this flop.....
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07-22-2018 , 02:19 PM
Rip it in.
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07-22-2018 , 02:59 PM
Fold preflop. In this sort of soft 1/2 game where raises don't have much FE you won't be able to play A-rag suited effectively.

As played you have to be facing a particularly bad combination of hands before you are not getting odds to shove. Any chance everybody actually fold is just a bonus. There is just too much money in the pot relative to stacks. It's a high variance situation because you will probably get called and will be around a coin flip.
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07-23-2018 , 12:46 PM
I ended up shoving and all 3 villains called. Didn't feel good at this point. Turn is Jd and river Jc. Board pairing was not good. I sighed and turned my hand over and surprisingly it was good. Stacked all 3 villains. V1 showed QJo and V3 showed 10,7o v2 mucked.
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07-23-2018 , 01:50 PM
Fold or play smallest pre as possible in 1/2.
Why didn't you feel good when all the villains called? That's the perfect case scenario for you... Lets look at your equity even if 2 villains call all in the worst possible situation. V1 has 10-10c , V2 has 5c-6c . You still have 26.x% to scoop. That's the worst possible outcome and is super unlikely and that's only if 2 called. If V1 has 10-10c, and V2 has 7-7c you still have 29% to win the hand and with dead money in the pot you're priced in. With 4 callers your hand becomes amazing value.. And if even one has a flush draw they're just putting in more dead money for you
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07-23-2018 , 02:49 PM
Yeah that's a better way to look at it. I was more thinking about that board pairing ar the end as being the bad part and it bled over into my typing about the hand I guess. I was getting a great price and easily could have dominated draws in there like you said.
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07-23-2018 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fi$h
I ended up shoving and all 3 villains called. Didn't feel good at this point. Turn is Jd and river Jc. Board pairing was not good. I sighed and turned my hand over and surprisingly it was good. Stacked all 3 villains. V1 showed QJo and V3 showed 10,7o v2 mucked.
T7o is still the best hand on the river. Not the same two pair he flopped but still the best hand.

QJo is just hopeless here. No pair and can easily need runner/runner to win. Donk bluff into multiple opponents has almost no chance of working and calling the shove is hopeless.
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07-23-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
T7o is still the best hand on the river. Not the same two pair he flopped but still the best hand.
What?
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07-23-2018 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by c0rnBr34d
What?
My bad. Given the way you described the hand I didn't notice your flush got there.
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07-23-2018 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
T7o is still the best hand on the river. Not the same two pair he flopped but still the best hand.

QJo is just hopeless here. No pair and can easily need runner/runner to win. Donk bluff into multiple opponents has almost no chance of working and calling the shove is hopeless.
Yeah I made my flush. I was shocked when he showed QJo. J would never guessed he would make that play. Definitely something I noted on this villain.
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07-23-2018 , 07:53 PM
I'd probably limp pre a lot, sometimes fold. Raise might be OK, depending on players, but you are certainly hoping to take it down now. $35 would be better.

Flop is an easy shove. They've put $25 in post flop. Whatever the pot is, they'll often think in terms of how many dollars they wanna put in. It's true, the guy with $100 left should usually call. But what if it's his last $100 for the night? What if he was stabbing with like, a 7 or 88 in case you had AK?

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Originally Posted by fi$h
I ended up shoving and all 3 villains called. Didn't feel good at this point.
I think you're pretty, pretty +EV here, especially if they have each other's boat outs. Someone might have 2 of your your flush outs, but oh well.

Look what they actually showed up with.
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07-23-2018 , 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fi$h
I ended up shoving and all 3 villains called. Didn't feel good at this point. Turn is Jd and river Jc. Board pairing was not good. I sighed and turned my hand over and surprisingly it was good. Stacked all 3 villains. V1 showed QJo and V3 showed 10,7o v2 mucked.
Just ship it. So many draws here he could be donking or TX. And all three villains calling is a fantastic result when you have 9 outs to the nuts, regardless of whether anyone has a set. Even if we give one player a set, another 2p, and another a draw you have 29% equity. And that's pretty much worst case scenario when all three call.
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