1/2 $200 max buy-in

Hero(SB,200): Just sat down about 10 mins

V(BB, 160): young Mexican guy.


Preflop: one limper. Hero calls. V raise to 7. Limper folds. Hero calls
With KQo

Flop: KT2r

Hero checks. V checks

Turn: Jr

Hero bets 10. V calls

River:9

Hero bets 35. V raises to 100. Hero ??

Raise pre. What's the question here? We have 2nd nuts BVB in essentially a limped pot based on action prior and his pf raise sizing,and he has like $40 behind. Tons of hands he is doing this other than AQ. I ship it for the off chance he's bluffing,( and don't have to show our hand when he folds) and expect to chop far more than seeing the nuts.

Raise pf against only a limper and the bb. KQ is way ahead of their range.

I'd bet the flop. I think checking can easily miss value.

Shove river.

That is not a valid reason for raising. I'm not sure why you are so scared to show your cards anyways.

Not enough information on the villain to make a hero fold in this spot. A lot of the time we are chopping here, sometimes we are beat, and sometimes (rarely?) he is just making an lol raise/bluff with worse.

^^^^ This is not hard. If you would have bet the flop, then bet the turn properly, you would see this is as easy as it gets to put V all in.

In this scenario when V has so little behind and we have 2nd nuts it's a valid reason. Obviously I wouldn't be employing this if effective stacks were much deeper, but since they are far from it, its fine. And less info shown the better. (even though most would assume we have the Q here, with different board texture it would be more effective to that thought).

I would not ship here- AQ is in villains range for checking back flop. He did jus call turn which makes it less likely it's AQ but he could be trying to trap. Besides, he prolly has QT/QJ/or some other Q. Shoving doesn't accomplish anything except lose more on the off chance he has AQ, since he isn't calling with worse anyways.

I guess it's ok if you hate money. You are risking 20+bbs just so you don't have to show your cards when you have the best hand. That's essentially 2 hours of work that you are risking if you are a crushing player.

I'm not saying shove to do so , I am saying it's an added benefit if he is bluffing, feels too nitty to not get his last $40 in there regardless of the outcome.

Ya I wasn't factoring in how short he was behind, shovings fine in this example

How do your casinos implement rules about showing? In mine it's always the raiser that has to show first. To be honest, if we're better players, we'd want to see what he has and I think that's more valuable than him seeing what I have.
If I shove and he calls, I will have to show and if he doesn't have the Q, he mucks.
If I shove and he folds, I don't get to see what he bluffed with (and what cards he just raised pf with).

That's unless it's not the case wherever you're playing, and it's the person OOP that shows no matter what the action is.

On second thought, as played don't shove the river unless your opponent is really inexperienced (players that are total beginners will often greatly overestimate the strength of their hand on dangerous boards) or tends to spew a lot and might call your raise with a worse hand. Most opponents are passive so they won't fit those descriptions. If its a reg then you almost certainly shouldn't shove the river. I'd expect to split the pot a lot on the river though.

We want to make our decisions easier in the process of a hand. Youn played this hand very passively and now are in a tough spot with a decision.

First - you need to be raising for value pre-flop
Second - you need to be betting for value on the flop.
(The hand likely ends here if you played like that and you have no tough decisions and more $$$ in your stack; but if it continues...)
Third: If I had bet the whole way I GII right here. As you played it, Id def call his raise... but another option would have been to check call or even chk raise this river. You had played the hand passive up to that point and checking river might allow him to bluff a bunch or value bet if he thinks his 2 pair is good and we deliver bad news. Sure, he may have AQ but I think 2 pair are in his range as well.

Not including hands where we chop, when villain calls our 3-bet ship on the river do we expect to have the best hand more than 50% of the time? If not, we shouldn't be shipping.

Pf: I don't tend to raise KQo from the SB against one limper. maybe I am losing value but I think this plays well post flop when you hit top pair and I'd rather get away cheap when this misses the flop. I guess one argument is that there's $5 to win right now, but I'm so far against limpers range that when I hit, I can get a lot of value.
OTR: we have second nuts and V has 40 behind. Not folding and too often, I've seen recfish push two pair hands and sets here so I'm raising for value. Not counting chops, I think we are better than 50/50.