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12-15-2015 , 05:55 PM
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(UTG+1) Hero $1070: KK
(UTG +2) V1 $320:
(BB) V2 $275: Good player/solid likes to make plays sometimes and plays/defends a decent amount of hands though won't make spewy plays.

Preflop: Hero limps for 2, V1 makes it 10, folds around to V2 who calls in BB for 10, Hero makes it 50, V1 folds, V2 calls in BB (HU to the pot with V2)
^(Would this v really cold call twice with AA in BB given action)?

Flop, Pot = 110
857
V2 x, Hero x (his range here is basically 88-AA, and this hand is a 2 street hand so i could opt for a bet, bet, x or a x, bet, bet i thought that the latter looked much weaker and would get called by much worse a lot also i thought i could induce some bluffs OTT given most of my value range would bet this flop)

Turn, Pot = 110
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V2 x, Hero bets 60, V2 x-raises to 175 (has 50 left behind, basically all-in)
Hero...?
1/2 KK Ep vs. BB Quote
12-15-2015 , 06:39 PM
I think you should range him on a PP that is lower than KK.
1/2 KK Ep vs. BB Quote
12-15-2015 , 06:41 PM
Yes there is some chance he has AA, if he thought it would go 2 or 3 to the flop and he wanted to get tricky.
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12-15-2015 , 07:04 PM
All in
1/2 KK Ep vs. BB Quote
12-15-2015 , 07:20 PM
you answered your own question in the post.. at this depth..two streets..blah blah.. gii.. x induce.. something value..

easy all in. guessing he had AA?

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12-15-2015 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
you answered your own question in the post.. at this depth..two streets..blah blah.. gii.. x induce.. something value..

easy all in. guessing he had AA?

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+1
1/2 KK Ep vs. BB Quote
12-15-2015 , 11:56 PM
Gonna go against the grain here,you describe villian as good to decent so your limp RR preflop pretty much turns your hand face up as AA KK and he is shoveling money in. Give the pot size you created think this is sigh get it in but vs halfway decent hand reader not really loving this. Unless your read is off and this guy is getting it.in w any overpair.
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12-16-2015 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by monkeymaps
Gonna go against the grain here,you describe villian as good to decent so your limp RR preflop pretty much turns your hand face up as AA KK and he is shoveling money in. Give the pot size you created think this is sigh get it in but vs halfway decent hand reader not really loving this. Unless your read is off and this guy is getting it.in w any overpair.
Sorry I disagree with you and think your post is contradictory.
If villain is good to decent (assumption made) and he puts us on AA and KK then we can safely remove 8x from his flop calling range
He can have a full house but his line doesn't jive with it
Top card pairing is a perfect bluff card to get someone off of a higher pair especially if hero is weak hand reader

In this case given stack sizes calling is a no brainier. But folding this hand with deeper stacks (given the exact same action) is highly exploitative
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12-16-2015 , 10:59 AM
Limp/rr is an obvious play with AA/KK. You can limp/rr if you mix in lite 3! with something like ATs or if V1 is a laggy maniac and you expect tons of dead money to call him. I'd rather raise with KK because it makes my other EP raises look strong.

You have an SPR of 2. You're never folding and the money is going in. You're paying off sets and AA. You don't need three streets to get stacks in. I'd prefer to bet $60 on the flop, then shove $165 on the turn. It guarantees the money goes in before the board gets scarier, even more so on a straight draw heavy flop. Checking the flop is fine too if you expect your opponent to bet the turn. As played, never fold.
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12-16-2015 , 12:55 PM
Unless you have very good reason to believe open raising and taking a bet, bet, bet line would turn your hand too face up vs. this villain then this hand was entirely too FPS.

If that's not the case and you knew exactly what you were doing, what is the question? You have the 2nd nut pair in a pot with SPR of 2. Just GII.
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12-17-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Unless you have very good reason to believe open raising and taking a bet, bet, bet line would turn your hand too face up vs. this villain then this hand was entirely too FPS.

If that's not the case and you knew exactly what you were doing, what is the question? You have the 2nd nut pair in a pot with SPR of 2. Just GII.
Yes thats exactly what i thought the former/first paragraph this guy was a thinking player but was a bit too loose at times. As soon as i limp re-raise pre he puts me on a very strong/narrow value range and expects me to bet this board texture a lot with overpairs, pretty much he could exploit me in a sense given my range is face up.

Spoiler:
Hero went all-in/called villain sigh called with QQ
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12-17-2015 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoxgsr96
Yes thats exactly what i thought the former/first paragraph this guy was a thinking player but was a bit too loose at times. As soon as i limp re-raise pre he puts me on a very strong/narrow value range and expects me to bet this board texture a lot with overpairs, pretty much he could exploit me in a sense given my range is face up.

Spoiler:
Hero went all-in/called villain sigh called with QQ
Nice hand. He is just asking to get sucked out on by AK by checking twice.
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12-18-2015 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by endodocdc
Sorry I disagree with you and think your post is contradictory.
If villain is good to decent (assumption made) and he puts us on AA and KK then we can safely remove 8x from his flop calling range
He can have a full house but his line doesn't jive with it
Top card pairing is a perfect bluff card to get someone off of a higher pair especially if hero is weak hand reader

In this case given stack sizes calling is a no brainier. But folding this hand with deeper stacks (given the exact same action) is highly exploitative
+1 TY
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