Hero: 30s white male. Image TAG. Players made comments that when I bet "I have It" Stack $150

Villain 1: 30s White male. Seems like a pretty Tight straight forward player he is sitting with about $600 he is drunk and very very tired. He can hardly keep his head up.

Villain 2: 30s white male. A little more LAG than TAG at times. likes to open raise and raise OTB. has about $300

On to the hand

Folds to V1 in MP who raises to $12 V2 calls. I call with ATo OTB

I decided to play AT against V1's raise since I had position and he was pretty straight forward and tired.

Flop A85r

V1 Checks V2 Checks Hero bets $20 both players call

Turn 2r

V1 Checks V2 Checks Hero Checks.

River a 6

V1 Checks V2 bets $50

I call.

I checked the turn planning on calling most bets specially from V2 more so than V1. did I play this poorly so far by checking the Turn? I felt the flop call someone had an A specially V1 so I slowed down incase I was outkicked. then V2 wakes up with a bet.

Bet the turn 3 handed on a rainbow 2, too many gutters and more weaker Axs than not that limp pre that you can grab a steeet from. If both call, express to showdown if you can.

AP, it's a coin flip. V1 likely won't ck 3 times and have a hand better than AT that he can overcall with, so the main concern is V2... I really don't think I want to call on this river, so many SC hands that V2 has heading to the turn got there, gutters got there and there's always some Ax 2p hands that got there now, ott, perhaps even on the flop.

Tl:dr bet turn. Fold river.

I'd fold pre most of the time. A 'tight straight forward' player's raising range dominates ATo. You could 3! squeeze, but not with 75BB. What position is V2?

I think you played the hand fine postflop. I'd normally fold the river. Even for a LAG, V2 bets into two players and has to assume at least one player has an ace. You lose to more Ax hands than you beat. I'd be more tempted to call if V1 gave a ready-to-fold tell, or if you plan on sticking around, call to see what hand V2 played this way. It's close, but should be a fold.

V2 was in the CO to my direct right. V1 was on V2's right in the HJ I think.

The line looks fine to me, I'm probably folding this river with V1 to act behind me. It smells like Ax 2p to me, but who knows. I can't think of any hand that bets for value and we beat here. A9? A7? Fold and hopefully V1 calls


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I called. He showed A6 for a rivered 2 pair.

Stop calling raises with AT from tight straight forward players. You may want to reconsider AJ too...

Yes, I can understand your point but!

Should we be folding any Ace IP even when we know he will check when an A is on the flop signaling that he
has an under pair? Shouldn't we play any A against him in this case or ATC? isn't that exploiting him?

We always know he doesn't have an A when he checks an A high flop so he must have a under pair like KK and below? That is what I meant about him playing straight forward. if he misses he checks and if he hits he bets. Actually we should be playing ATC here and bet when he checks? I'm I wrong here?

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Should we be folding any Ace IP even when we know he will check when an A is on the flop signaling that he
has an under pair? Shouldn't we play any A against him in this case or ATC? isn't that exploiting him?

We always know he doesn't have an A when he checks an A high flop so he must have a under pair like KK and below? That is what I meant about him playing straight forward. if he misses he checks and if he hits he bets. Actually we should be playing ATC here and bet when he checks? I'm I wrong here?[/QUOTE]

Well that depends on reads, what would a tight player open to 6x in mp with a lag to his left? AQo+ would be my guess. Let's say it is AQ. This flop is very dry...not uncommon at all to check and let the fish do their thing. All of sudden the guy that always has "it" leads the flop for a touch over half pot. He is probably putting you on sets or a big ace. He decides to float oop and see what happens on the turn. checks around???? hmm maybe AQ is good....river comes and all of sudden v2 wakes up with a half pot lead begging for a call and the guy that always has it calls. I guess AQ is no good and he mucks.

I suggest folding only because AT does not play well against most mp opening ranges in 1/2. You did, however have at least two opportunities to win the pot. Once the lag called behind the tight player this is a good spot to squeeze. Make it $45.....very hard for either hand to continue and you pick up $27 (provided your image is what you say) Also on the turn, there is $99 sitting in the middle. You need to bet a minimum of $50...up to a shove.

1/2 is a ton of level 1 thinking. Exploit that.

The challenge is that you only beat 4 aces - A9, A7, A3, A4, and perhaps he value bets A9 out of that, and I can't see him betting something like 78 here.

Calling with ATo is asking for trouble. Fold pre.
AP: Bet 3/4 pot OTT. I cannot believe either player is checking a better ace.
If V2 calls, you've made him pay & if he bets the River & isn't the type to donk/bluff into someone, you can safely fold. You only beat A9, A7 & lose to A8,6,5 & A2s
I can't believe he'd call Turn bet with A3, A4, as I've had players flash their ace several times when I bet my QQ strong OFT or OTT, as they folded.