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04-27-2014 , 10:44 PM
Hero- 70BB. EP. Got up to 150 BB and got beat bad a few hands earlier.

I call pre-flop with A 7

V1-250BB- calls
V2-150BB- folds
V3-150BB- calls
V4-150BB- calls
V5-100BB- calls
V6-200BB- folds
(estimates)


Flop comes 5 6 8

What do you do here?

Spoiler:
I shove, everyone folds to V5 who calls. Turn 5 River 9

V5 turns over 8 8 with a full house, loses to my straight flush.
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04-27-2014 , 10:45 PM
Put money into the pot
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04-27-2014 , 10:45 PM
#coolstorybro
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04-27-2014 , 11:27 PM
Value Bet

Note: Always keep more chips in your pocket/hoodie to rebuy up to table maximum.
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04-28-2014 , 07:30 AM
Pay off
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04-28-2014 , 08:02 AM
Didn't read the spoiler:

Bet flop for 2/3 pot.
Bet turn for 1/2 - full pot depending on number of callers.
Bet river for 1/2 - 2/3 pot depending on pot size, stack size and number of callers.
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04-28-2014 , 08:47 AM
You´re over 100 to one to flop a flush, and if you want someone else to have a flush too, the odds get even worse. Naked flushdraws and top pair meh kicker are not easy hands to play well from EP in a multiway pot with 69 big blinds. Factor in you will often get raised out of the pot preflop, and you should come to the logical conclusion that those $2 from your preflop call could be better spent on something else.
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04-28-2014 , 08:52 AM
Also from your perspective the others are all simply playing 70bb.
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04-28-2014 , 01:37 PM
Lol did you just open jam $138 into a ~$10 limped pot?
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04-28-2014 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
Lol did you just open jam $138 into a ~$10 limped pot?
this.

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04-28-2014 , 02:07 PM
BBV is that way.
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04-28-2014 , 02:14 PM
What is this I don't even
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04-28-2014 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisBowling
Value Bet

Note: Always keep more chips in your pocket/hoodie to rebuy up to table maximum.
But be really careful with them because last year I accidentally dropped two blacks in the toilet and then it autoflushed.
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04-28-2014 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
Lol did you just open jam $138 into a ~$10 limped pot?
He did get called! He had a read on his opponent.
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04-28-2014 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
What is this I don't even
Agreed; Other than this getting posted for a "OMGIBBQDU" moment, it was a horrible play. You jammed 69BBs into a 5BB pot with the stone cold nuts w/redraw and expect others to praise the play. No, your flop shove was idiotic.

Other than that, I don't know if you were first to act post flop, last to act post flop, or middle position. All I can assume is that you either acted first and shoved or it was checked around to you and you shoved. Either way, this play loses value 99% of the time. If first to act, I would advocate either a c/c plan or an open for 3-4 bbs to build a pot and hope everyone comes along. If played back against, call a reraise and build a pot.
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04-28-2014 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ValueBluff
Lol did you just open jam $138 into a ~$10 limped pot?
Yes, silly play, I am fully aware.

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Originally Posted by Koss
What is this I don't even
Lold

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Originally Posted by Joe7280
Agreed; Other than this getting posted for a "OMGIBBQDU" moment, it was a horrible play. You jammed 69BBs into a 5BB pot with the stone cold nuts w/redraw and expect others to praise the play. No, your flop shove was idiotic.

Other than that, I don't know if you were first to act post flop, last to act post flop, or middle position. All I can assume is that you either acted first and shoved or it was checked around to you and you shoved. Either way, this play loses value 99% of the time. If first to act, I would advocate either a c/c plan or an open for 3-4 bbs to build a pot and hope everyone comes along. If played back against, call a reraise and build a pot.
I'm not posting to have this play praised, it was stupid and I got lucky. I posted it to the see what you all think the proper play was, not to tell me how stupid it was... that I am fully aware of lol.

BTW, this was the last hand I was playing before I had to go meet my family downstairs in the casino, that is the reason I shoved. I would not have done that in a normal game that I planned on staying at. I took a big, albeit stupid, gamble and it paid off. With that sort of hand it was obviously stupid to force people out when I had the nuts dealt to me.

I only included the spoiler because it was an interesting hand, I knew I would get some hate for shoving.

Thanks for your response Joe.
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04-28-2014 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bm303
I'm not posting to have this play praised, it was stupid and I got lucky. I posted it to the see what you all think the proper play was, not to tell me how stupid it was
Correct play is to fold raggy aces from early position more often than not. If you want to enter the pot, open for a raise.

On this flop when we flop the nuts with a straight flush redraw we want to build a pot, shoving that much is not going to get any action aside from maybe the Q or K high flush or maybe a set, people are going to fold a ton of stuff you beat which is bad.

Bet 2/3 the pot, shove if someone raises.

Shove any turn
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04-28-2014 , 04:25 PM
With the pot only 10$, I bet like 15. 1/2 players tnink in terms of absolute bet size, not relative to the pot. 8s will prob even raise you.

GL
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