Villain (Button): is a tight live reg who is one of the bigger winners at the casino playing tight passive poker preflop (only raises TT+ sometimes AK, have seen him limp AK a decent amount of the time) and tight aggressive post flop. He is an above average post flop player. He usually has it at showdown but I have seen him make a big bluff in the past. He does have respect for my game but knows that I am capable of moves. Stack=$300

Hero($200) BB with 64. 3 limps to villian, villian limps. SB limps. Hero Checks.

Flop:$12 K64 SB check. Hero leads for $10 going for three streets of value vs Kx. Folds to Villian who raises to $25. I have not ever seen V raise with a draw but I do know that he would do this with AK, KQ or KJ expecting to have the best hand. So my range for villian right now is {44,66,AK,KQ,KJ} as I have never seen him limp a big PP on the button. Hero Calls.

Turn: $57 after rake. 7
Hero checks. V bets $35. Hero Calls. I still give V the same range as the flop as he is fully aware that I could just have 57 or 65 and he could still think one pair is good. My plan was to check/fold any rivers that I do not improve but I do believe that he will NOT fire a third bullet with only 1 pair.

River: $127. 5
Hero Checks. V bets $75. This is a big bet for V in a limped pot and although I had originally planned to c/f to rivers I do not improve this 5 put a wrench in my plans. I am 100% certain that V2 never has a 3 or 8 in his hand. So why dose he make this big of a bet (for him) when I could easily have one? This spot leveled me for so long. But then again, why would he turn a big king into a bluff on the river instead of just checking behind? I even considered shoving for only $50 more as a bluff with the logic that he NEVER has a straight but I thought it would be too little for him to fold anything..
Hero tanks and tanks and tanks

Villain doesn't raise preflop with AK here in position with 3 limpers ahead? I think with the line taken it's difficult to play the river with almost no information. What's others opinion on 3-betting the flop to something like $55?

Avatar? She's too young for you bro.

+1. Not to sound like a complete ass, but I think emma watson is like 14 in that picture.

As far as the hand goes, I agree with hxcxor. 3 betting seems like a good idea to me.

As played, I would probably call. I just think his line makes no sense, and it is really tough to put him on a hand. Not really too much more to say on that, it is a tough spot and we have limited info on how he behaves in these spots.

Let's discount AK and KQs, because is he really limping on the btn 100% with KQs/AK? That's absurd. I can't see how hes a big winning player playing this passive preflop. That leaves a very ambitious KQo/KJ/44/66/air

To call we need to be good 27% of the time. So, if hes doing this with 44/66 100%, KQo/KJ 50% of the time, and air 5%, we can cawl.

No reason to shove unless you think hes calling with KJ/KQ.

What it comes down to is how good your reads on villain are. Is villain never raising AK/KQs on the btn? Would villain ever limp K6ss on the btn? Is he never raising the flop with a hand like 78dd? Can he ever limp with KK? Is he ever going to fire the river with KJ on that scary a board?

Tough spot. With your reads, looks like a cawl.

shove would be as a bluff tmc, obv not for value and yes IDK that is just how he plays he limps KQ and AK a decent amount but he is smart enough post flop to get away with it at this game

When ur range is atc and likely two pair I may consider folding the turn

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This worries me somewhat. Even though he seems epic horrid preflop, you seem to think he plays pretty well postflop and is a huge winner.

It's really unlikely for you to have a set the way the hand played out. If I was villain I'm more worried that you just backed into 2 pair if you didn't have me already.

He should also know that YOU never have a 3 or 8 here unless you have specifically 35. 35 probably doesn't lead the flop. If villain has a set here, he should know he's good like 100% and you're probably paying off. Of course, sets are very hard given that there are only 1 combination of 66 and 44 out there.

The more I think about it, there's a good chance that he actually has 64s, 57 (if he's semi-bluff raising the flop and picked up a pair to go along), or a set.

At the table, I probably sigh/call. Vs a really good postflop player, I could actually find merit in folding here because he has to know you're not on a weak king here, and any conceivable hand you can be on is 2 pair+ at this point, and he's still betting large.

Anyway, enough of my 4am rambling. Decision really should come down to whether you think villain thinks he can push you off 2 pair here, or whether villain thinks you ever show up with KQ or KJ here.

You level yourselves in this spot all the time and they always show you something stupid like K8, and you say "how the **** can this tight player show up with this hand, and why are they raising this OTF it makes no sense?" Welcome to live poker where villains do things that make no sense because they aren't good at poker.

To clarify OP had a picture of Emma Watson from what had to first or second film. Hansen will have to help him out. Thank you for changing it though. It was pretty odd.

He plays very little hands from early position or middle position and has a wide limping range in late position. Yes I have seen him raise ak before but I have also seen him limp it. So anyway hero tanks and tanks and folds and I still 100% stood byy rEad that he didn't have a 3 or 8 just because of how well he plays post flop but the deciding factor was that he would never bet a good king on this river. So I conince him to tell me his hand after about an hour and he said he had k6s. This once again shows how strong he is post flop(vbetting river). But yeah I don't know how he does it but he is an older guy(60s) who has a large limping raise in lp and a tight raising range in all positions and I have rarely seen him lose.

OOP you should 3-bet flop IMO

Seeing these middle king hands definitely frustrate the hell out of me. I definitely prefer mid-suited connectors and small pairs, and avoid Kx, Qx, Jx like the plague, but there have been a number of times where otherwise tight players show up with 2-pair when I have the AK, AQ or AJ....hence pot control OOP. As played, I'd flip a coin whether to call/fold. I think 2/3 time you feel like an idiot and 1/3 he goes 'good call.' Given you are getting 8:3 on the call, it's roughly break even if he is bluffing 1/3 of the time. I can see how he's winning - his bet sizing seems very effective for whatever is in his hand (except for one pair hands, so if he really is good I hope he's bluffing).

And if he shoves you call?

I totally agree, but I can only go off what OP said that this guy is one of the biggest winners in the casino and really good postflop. If our read on him is wrong it changes everything about the hand.

I don't think he ever has K8, but he knows you don't have K8 either. If he's actually a very good reader, and if he thinks Hero is a TAG, what could we have besides 2pair+ here?

So IMO he's either trying to bet us off a weak 2 pair or he has 64+ himself. Dunno if OP has any thoughts on whether he'd try that, or whether he thinks we can fold 64 here.

Yes. Because he might do that with AK there since he's been described as passive with big hands preflop, and aggressive with them post. He's also been describe as not limping with big pairs, so KK is gone.

If he has the case 4's or 6's, god bless him.

But 99% of the time, I can't see him re-shoving, because the way it played out doesn't fit anything that could re-shove other than what I covered above.

Whenever out of position, try to take it down ASAP unless you hold nuts. Bottom 2pr is deceivingly strong.

This is supposedly the best hand reader in the casino. Raise/calling for stacks with AK there is absolutely horrible in a limped pot. So given reads he never calls the shove there, although he probably bets at least the turn if we check. We could actually lead the river and potentially get called by AK.

I think we can agree if he was the best hand reader in the building he wouldn't be playing 1/2. I think a lot of typical 1/2 players, however good they appear to be, will stack off with AK there if they are habitual AK-limpers.

But again, I doubt he would shove after you 3-bet the flop... The point of the 3-bet would be to take it down right there, which I'd assume would happen majority of the time, or give someone the opportunity to overplay a single K. I don't like getting tricky out of position, but that's just me.

I've started falling out of love with two pair. I can't remember the last time I got it all in w two pair and won. Flopping 2 pair has become my least favorite hand. I feel like the last 10 times I flopped two, I lost 8 - either up against a set, better two pair, etc. I've had to fold about 2p 3 times in the past few weeks when I flopped 2p, bet or raised the flop and got raised back like 4-5x. Don't know if this is crazy tight, but I was up against players who were very solid, tight players and I couldn't imagine they would be risking their stack w one pair...