This is a live casino $1/2. I'm new to the table and villains are unknown. I have K K and $200 in the SB. Both villains are EP and limp with $400. I raise to $21, and both call. Flop is T 8 6.

I bet $50 into into $66, leaving $129 behind, with the intention of shoving any turn if called, or shoving/calling if raised on flop. Thoughts on this vs. shoving flop, check/raising flop, giving up on a turn, etc.?

I wouldn't shove on the flop becauae it is an overvet that gets mostly called by hands thats beat you (AA, two pairs and sets) and only sometimes by hands you beat JJ, QQ and draws, but even there I'm not sure they'll call often with these hands.

Chek/raising is no good since there are a lot of draws and you only have one pair, it's too risky, because you don't want them to both chek. Also, it makes sens if you bet since you were the agressor (a chek could be suspicious).

If you get two callers, if would worry about a third club on the turn so I would slow down, but just how I would play turn+river in that situation really depends on your read, what you know about your opponent and the action.

So far so good. Did both villain's call?

The flop was bet and both villains folded. But several of us got discussing this hand and the various things that might happen and there was some disagreement (go figure!). I have an opinion on what would be best, but of course I don't want to share that right now :-) But all the options was favored by somebody - one person says check/raising all-in is best, another said bet/shoving was best, another said waiting for a safe turn card was best, etc. I just wanted some expert opinions here....

One issue that was mentioned was if the turn was a , then it's possible someone made a flush draw obviously, but it's also possible they hold one plus, say, one pair.

When you bet, you're generally trying to accomplish one of two things: 1) get value from worse hands, or 2) Get better to fold.

Outside sets and something like T8/86 we are ahead. We can get value from worse. So, we bet to get action from a ten, a flush draw, a straight draw, even from an unbelieving 8 or 6.

Given the action pre-flop we can't count on a bet by either of the villains, so leading here is the best way to get the most value.

Since the effective stack to pot ratio is so small, we should bet on the flop with the intention of getting all in.

Don't discuss your hand at the table.

I think the line you planned is well played

It really depends of the situation, sometimes it may be better to chek/raise the flop with an overpair or even chek/call, but here, in this specific situation, I really think you had to bet, well done.

Yes, the hand was not discussed at the table. Thank you.