$150~ effective stacks,

Tight villian opens $7 UTG, has been known to overplay pocket pairs. Hero flats in SB w/ AKo because playing AK OOP sucks.

Flop: K94

Hero checks, villian bets $25, hero calls.

Turn: 7

Hero checks, villian shoves, hero has them covered.

Hero?????

How many people are in this hand? If it is just you and villain then his line is very weird. Over betting a fairly dry flop and over shoving brick turn. Can you read any significance into the small preflop raise UTG?

This is a situation where I'm making my decision on the flop based on villain's betting style. If I think he can be doing this with worse then AK as a bluff or a semi-bluff then I call flop planning on getting it all in on a non-diamond turn. If I think he mostly has AK+ and is afraid that you are drawing then I can fold this on the flop. Absent any other information, I'm folding the flop the time he does this.

It's just the villain and I. I agree that his flop and turn plays were very strange, looking back he's probably one or two people at the table I could have found a fold to. I don't really see any significance from the small preflop raise, 6-10 has been standard for UTG open ranges at this table if not limping (which happens a fair amount).

I thought he could have possibly done this with KQs, or AKs, because we had a AsKh. Possibly could have even done this with QQ. His other lines are maybe overplayed sets or AA or any combination of AK.

I ended up calling partly because I was tired and had been card dead for the past 1.5-2 hours. He showed up with AA, and I said good hand and goodbye to the table. I think if I had been less tired, I would have thought about it more and possibly found the fold. I'm mostly curious if it's me thinking the fold is obvious in hindsight, or if I'm just being results oriented.

Ahh...snap call.

Sorry you lost. But never folding.

You're folding this flop to one bet? The read is that Villain over plays pocket pairs. I don't see the logic for folding here given the read/situation.

More like YOU don't like playing AK OOP. You have a top 10 hand. Why are you not raising with it?

Raise to $20ish Pre.

Over play how? Need to be more specific. Would he overbet pot and 2x pot jam with 10's+? Would he do it with 8's or 7's on the same board?

Why the hell would you check here? This is just bad. If you think V is overplaying a PP, then why not just bet for value? Don't let him have the option of checking behind.

This is how I would be most likely to play this hand. And we'll assume v calls pre and flop.

PRE....3 bet to $20. -----V calls------Pot $40
FLop...H LEADS $20------V calls------Pot $80
Turn....H LEADS $40---V ships for $70 more.......EASY call Calling $70 to win $300.

You only need to be good 23.3% of the time to BE. You're only dead to sets, and if V really does overplay PPs this bad, you're good a helluva lot more than 23.3% of the time.

Usually this means player is scared that you draw and just wants to win the hand. I think he does it for value only.

Basically he only has AA or AK with this line, and with the overbets its a fold.

What is happening ITT

- I think 3b or flat pre is fine... if we 3b $20 is a terrible sizing oop...
- Flop ... lol at ever folding. (I would not classify as a dry flop). I probably raise here if we know V has tendency of overplay hands, but flatting is fine.
- Turn ... Whether we have the Ad or not is relevant. Regardless... never folding here for 50bbs in a $1/2. He will have AA & AK somewhat often... but certainly not exclusively. Plus we note he overplays pocket pairs (which likely means he can overplay other holdings).

Any other relevant history with V?
Is $7 his standard sizing / table standard sizing?
Does H have an image?

Given villain description I'm not sure. He is described as over playing pairs, but nothing suggests he habitually over bets.

At most 1/2 games I would instantly peg this for AA or a set because of the small UTG bet unless villain is a habitual bluffer, but the OP says it's typical for this table. That being the case it's a matter of judging what is in villains range, any sets other then KK? Does he do this with JJ/TT or worse? Any flush draws?

My point was that I'm deciding on the flop if I think I'm beating enough of villain's range or not. A villain over betting this flop is most likely going to shove turn, and getting into very many call flop/fold turn situations is a good way to dither off your stack.

Would he overplay his draws this way?

In the heat of battle, I'd call

Oh, and obligatory reraise pre

So what's your size?

I originally said 20ish. $25 is fine. 30 looks like your scared to play OOP to me.

I used 20 in the example to show what size the pot could be and what the odds would look like had OP played this better.

This doesn't make any sense, and is your mistake in the hand.

Post flop is also more difficult now because you don't have the initiative.

Id want to know a little bit about his utg range. Also just how tight he plays.

Let's say that I'd never played w him before and we were 3 orbits in, this was the first hand i saw him play, I'd fold then.

His jam looks like exactly AA.

Against most people I would call, not this vil type though

Lol/// This applies to all hands.

Considering how you played the hand, Villain likely thinks you have a draw and this is why he is pushing it so hard.

Typical live players would rather have a small pot than a bad beat.

Because of this, we are likely chopping at best, fold turn.

3b pre. I don't want to talk about anything else.

Classic example of why you don't post results.

3b to $20 is fine heads up. As we are raising for value, in heads up pot.

Then once we hit flop bet, bet, bet line.

At $20. He is likely gonna 4 bet KK, AA. We can fold, saving money in long run.

Generally don't see tight villains 4bet AK

Your line is too passive which is why it's impossible to fold. 3! Pre, you can possibly fold to a 4!, or flat and evaluate flop. Bet the flop, or x/r. X/c is awful. If he comes back over the top you can fold. Bet the turn. If he comes back over the top you can fold. Bet/fold bet/fold bet/fold all day.

Flatting doesn't put you in position. Your statement is a complete non sequitur. Sometimes someone will have aces and you'll have AK. If the flop comes Axx or Kxx you're going to lose money.

If the Villain is only raising KK+, then fold. It they're raising a normal range, then 3-betting is always the correct strategy.

I can see your future. Next time in this situation you'll fold, and Villain will proudly turn over his KQ, to assure you that he "had it" this time.

He's jammed 33's and 77's pre to an open/3bet before with 25 and 50bbs, I've seen him overbet the flop with TT on a board with an overpair or two on it before.

In this spot I should always be 3betting pre, probably folding to 4bet. As played I should have bet the flop, bet the turn and folded to a reraise.

I agree, played too passive and it cost me. Need to get more aggressive to save money in these spots.


Congratulations on seeing the future, you don't know **** about me! I'd probably fold this spot vs this specific villian in the future, especially as played, but anyone else at the table I don't.