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04-29-2013 , 12:25 PM
Just sat down at table, I have no reads on anyone. in SB with AsQc, action folds to player in MP, he calls $2, folds to me I call for $1 and BB Raises to $8, MP calls as do I.

Flop comes Ad 6h 7s,
I lead out for $10, BB and MP both call
Turn is 4d
I bet $20, BB folds and MP moves all in for $150
what do I do here?
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04-29-2013 , 12:33 PM
Hand seems botched from the beginning and putting yourself in a tricky spot.

I like raising preflop to $8-$12 with only one limper in pot. Need to be getting some value for your premium hands...

As played though with little to no information...you should fold and wait for a better spot. Such a wide range of hands he could have here but know he's not making this play with only one pair when he limped in preflop.
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04-29-2013 , 12:43 PM
grunch: fold

why bluff-catch on first hand? that's a huge overbet. let it go.

i probably wouldn't call AQo out of position on most tables... includings ones i just sat down at. either fold or raise pre if it were me. also, betting 10 into 24 seems way to small. gotta go at least half pot imo unless you know you're against hyper-aggressive players and want to induce.
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04-29-2013 , 01:09 PM
Raise pre.

As played, fold.
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04-29-2013 , 01:17 PM
If I had a good read on the lone limper as a straightforward ABC player, typically I'd be raising a little wider than usual from the blinds in spite of being OOP postflop. Readless, I don't despise the limp, and the call.

I probably would have just checked the flop assuming the BB is going to continue with 100% of his range, but I guess that is quite the assumption readless. My plan would probably be to just check/call most streets and let him barrel off (putting in a value bet on the next street if the previous one checks thru). As played, $10 into $24 is a pretty small bet; any reason you are betting < 1/2 PSB?

After two callers on the flop, I might just check and try and see what is going on. I don't hate a bet/fold, but again, why are we betting such a small amount (again, $20 into $54 which again is < 1/2 PSB). Even though are bet sizes are weak and it's possible villain could be playing back against them, I think this is a fairly standard fold at this point.

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04-29-2013 , 01:19 PM
You should be raising pre and I don't like don't betting either
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04-29-2013 , 01:37 PM
Have to fold this, especially readless. His range is too wide and you're basically just a bluff catcher at this point.
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04-29-2013 , 02:15 PM
Easy fold. What can you beat w/tpgk, unless V is semibluffing with s/f draws which you can't know without a read? Against an unknown this is always a quick muck.

My hunch is v hit two pair or lower set on flop and got scared with straight/flush draws on turn. That would fit with the action.

Next time raise pre, bigger cbet flop, and eval on turn/river, where I'd lean towards b/f depending on read.
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04-29-2013 , 06:44 PM
thanks for all the input everyone.
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04-29-2013 , 07:44 PM
I think this has to be a raise pre.

Then bet closer to pot on the flop.

As played, I think he has a huge combo draw most of the time here. The massive over bet raise doesn't seem like a set or straight. The problem is it's the first hand, we have no reads, and villain limp/called a small pre flop raise.

He can have a fair amount of two pairs mixed in here and w/o info I don't want to put another ~ 65bb's into the middle read less. I just fold and move on.

Also is this at Moeghgan or down at Penn national? If it's at Hollywood on a race day I could probably find a call here...
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04-30-2013 , 09:21 PM
At the Mohegan
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04-30-2013 , 09:28 PM
Yep. I agree. Fold. Too huge an over-bet.

Raise to 13 PF.

If both players called PF, bet 28-32 on flop. Then evaluate turn. Scare card comes, oh well, start checking and be prepared to fold. The BB is scary.
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04-30-2013 , 09:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StlChris79
Just sat down at table, I have no reads on anyone. in SB with AsQc, action folds to player in MP, he calls $2, folds to me I call for $1 and BB Raises to $8, MP calls as do I.

Flop comes Ad 6h 7s,
I lead out for $10, BB and MP both call
Turn is 4d
I bet $20, BB folds and MP moves all in for $150
what do I do here?
Fold AQo to a pre-flop raise. What to do now? Well, ask yourself the question: "With what hand the BB will do that? Will he do it with AJ?" If the answer is NO, then fold else re-raise.

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