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01-19-2013 , 09:35 PM
I played at kind of crazy table this weekend. I have only been at the table for 3 hands and have already seen two all ins (stacks ~$200) and all three went at least five handed. Straddle every time. I don't really have all that much info, but was told that seat 3 went all in with bottom pair and sucked out on a dry board facing a 3 bet.

Anyway, 3rd hand I get AKo in middle pos. ($250 stack)
UTG straddles, 2 limps, HERO raises to $20, guy to my left calls, BUTTON calls (~$300 stack), BB calls (~$200 stack), both limpers call.

($121) 6 ways
Flop: KKJ rainbow.... (booyah!)

BB checks, 2 limpers check, HERO continues for $77, fold, BUTTON shoves for ~$300, BB shoves for ~$200, folds to HERO

What can these guys possibly have? I donk bet into a paired board and one shove over the top, then a call. Is this is an automatic call? The button seems like a solid player, we played a tournament earlier and he seemed to be solid (but he had a few drinks by this time). BB is crazy, I could see him getting all in with QT, so I put him on a draw or something weird like QJ.

Can you get away from this? I mean KJ and JJ are obviously in their ranges, but they are wide given previous hands' action.

Sorry if this is trivial, but let me know what you think...
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01-19-2013 , 09:43 PM
In before definition of set / trips debate.
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01-19-2013 , 09:43 PM
Calling all day in a vacuum. If you're beat, so be it.

PS: You have trips not at set.
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01-19-2013 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
In before definition of set / trips debate.
Prophet
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01-19-2013 , 09:48 PM
Is one of these players Seat 3? As played, snap call. I had a very similar hand a couple of years ago. Person had K6 ... of course, she binked a 6 on me but that's irrelevant. Any K is giving you action here and if you're up against KJ, so be it. Button PROBABLY doesn't have KJ ... Why shove? BB could. His $200 shove was really just a call of the $300.

You've already put in $97. Call.
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01-19-2013 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by yurk
Calling all day in a vacuum. If you're beat, so be it.

PS: You have trips not at set.
Yeah, yeah, I know better. Not the first time I have been corrected lol
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01-19-2013 , 09:54 PM
Snap call, sorry you got coolered
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01-19-2013 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ibelieveinkolb
Is one of these players Seat 3? As played, snap call. I had a very similar hand a couple of years ago. Person had K6 ... of course, she binked a 6 on me but that's irrelevant. Any K is giving you action here and if you're up against KJ, so be it. Button PROBABLY doesn't have KJ ... Why shove? BB could. His $200 shove was really just a call of the $300.

You've already put in $97. Call.
No lol, seat 3 was not. I am most worried about BB, he could easily be slow playing, knowing either I or button will continue.

Spoiler:
I make the call. Button shows K3o and BB shows AT. Button looses all credibility and BB stays on par with crazy image. I win the pot and go on to have a nice session realizing how loose the table.

At this point I was just wondering where I am at, with so little information
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01-19-2013 , 10:13 PM
You can only fold if you really believe that he is doing this only with AK+(If he is doing this with all AK, this is still a call since BB fish is in). I would not fold unless I know about the player on the button before.

Board: Kc Kh Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.848% 11.99% 17.86% 1068 1591.50 { AcKd }
Hand 1: 70.152% 52.29% 17.86% 4659 1591.50 { JJ, AKs, KJs, AKo, KJo }

we need to call about 150 and pot is 781 after you call..we only need 19% equity..so we need really strong belief on the button to fold AK.

Last edited by Haru; 01-19-2013 at 10:21 PM.
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01-19-2013 , 10:40 PM
When i read the title i was convinced you didn't know what you were doing being that AK can never flop a set. However, you played the hand fine. the pre flop and flop sizing were right on. nice hand and glad it held up for ya.
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01-19-2013 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Haru
You can only fold if you really believe that he is doing this only with AK+(If he is doing this with all AK, this is still a call since BB fish is in). I would not fold unless I know about the player on the button before.

Board: Kc Kh Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.848% 11.99% 17.86% 1068 1591.50 { AcKd }
Hand 1: 70.152% 52.29% 17.86% 4659 1591.50 { JJ, AKs, KJs, AKo, KJo }

we need to call about 150 and pot is 781 after you call..we only need 19% equity..so we need really strong belief on the button to fold AK.
There has to be more Kx in his range.
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01-20-2013 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by cAmmAndo
In before definition of set / trips debate.
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Originally Posted by yurk
Prophet
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Originally Posted by TheOriginalHoppa
Yeah, yeah, I know better. Not the first time I have been corrected lol
My nittiness ramps the fcuk up when people call trips a set. #nit
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01-20-2013 , 01:48 AM
Grunch Title:

Yes!
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01-20-2013 , 11:11 AM
OP where do you play ? please
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01-20-2013 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOriginalHoppa
I played at kind of crazy table this weekend. I have only been at the table for 3 hands and have already seen two all ins (stacks ~$200) and all three went at least five handed. Straddle every time.
Standard 1/2 table IMO
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01-20-2013 , 04:13 PM
you had trips with ace kicker, not a set

and lol at folding

even if someone has KJ or JJ you have outs, especially agiainst JJ which is much more probable than KJ bc that would be the case king

snap call for 300 bbs
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